MT Vs. CVT
With the way they have been tuning vtech motors for years it is possible to engage the mivec system much earlier on these cars. Thus increasing the potential of the CVTs. Yes it is still somewhat unknown what kind of power the cvt can handle but dont be suprised to see CVT lancers blowing the doors off some cars once more parts and tuning options are available.
Well, what i would love to see is a Turbo-esque modification to the ECU that makes the MiVEC kick in at LOW RPMs, or even make it a switch you can hit or something haha. Then you are just putting power the car already has throughout all rpms which the engine can handle. Atleast this all sounds pretty good in my head.
i was just saying its quiet at that rpm and still pretty fast. i think most the hp and tourque in 1st is about that rpm. wasting anymore time than that in 1st will prob slow u down lol.
Well, what i would love to see is a Turbo-esque modification to the ECU that makes the MiVEC kick in at LOW RPMs, or even make it a switch you can hit or something haha. Then you are just putting power the car already has throughout all rpms which the engine can handle. Atleast this all sounds pretty good in my head.
Or, if RRM can get their 08 piggyback to control the MIVEC, that'd be peachy too.
I'm thinking a MIVEC controller is our best bet. Check out VTEC controllers for Hondas. That will give you an idea. http://www.autocarparts.com/part/list/5/
Or, if RRM can get their 08 piggyback to control the MIVEC, that'd be peachy too.
Or, if RRM can get their 08 piggyback to control the MIVEC, that'd be peachy too.

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One thing I did notice you can get this book from your mitsu dealer that has most of the major reviews for our lancers from motor trend, car and driver and a few others. I may have misread but the 08 CVT actually had a better 0-60 time then the 08 MT but all that is subject to conditions and what not. Just a observation when I put mine in sport shift mode i have found the acceleration to be much better and very responsive not sure if its as good as stick but it shifts very quick and seems to have stick like response.
One thing I did notice you can get this book from your mitsu dealer that has most of the major reviews for our lancers from motor trend, car and driver and a few others. I may have misread but the 08 CVT actually had a better 0-60 time then the 08 MT but all that is subject to conditions and what not. Just a observation when I put mine in sport shift mode i have found the acceleration to be much better and very responsive not sure if its as good as stick but it shifts very quick and seems to have stick like response.
(Yes, I'm serious. Honda Odyssey supposedly had a lower 0-60 than the CVT in one magazine's tests.)
honestly.. in this day and age there is no performance reason not to pick an automatic. especially with the computer controlled things on tap, simple computer tweek maybe a torque converter. you get both a 'racing' setup in a manual or ratchet mode, and a cruising/daily mode.
think about it.. it's no different then the route people go with short shifters, lighter flywheels, and stronger clutchs
basically it really comes down to your personal preference mind you this is from a performance modifying stand point... stock to stock, the 5spd is gonna be a little more performance, while the CVT is a little compromise of daily commuter/family car and spirited runs here and there.
personally I'm tossed up. For me, I need a multipurpose car. I race autoX and TSD rally, but I also need something i can drive literally every day year round (one of the reasons I'm finally buying a brand new car) I also want a car that I work on for fun, not cause I gotta fix the next thing worn out on a used car ( I do that daily already as a mechanic)
I also plan on running a very healthy nitrous shot instead of turbo (mainly cause I can turn it off for the daily grind driving and save fuel/engine stress) and the unknown strength handling of the cvt does worry me a little. on the other side of the coin in autoX or tsd.. just a paddle shift and no clutch to worry about is very inticing.
when I went to set up for my new car.. ofcourse I test drove the 5spd, before I set my final order, I'm gonna take a cvt for a quick run just to see.
as a side note.. for the 0-60 runs, and 1/4 times... how does the CVT power brake before it's launch?? I do hope the people running these 'tests' and such are powerbraking their cvts?????
so basically the point of this ramble was... mt or cvt.. really differs more on what YOU want to do with the car .. in the 1/4 the cvt should be able to make up what ever ground it lost from the launch by the end of the track so they should be neck and neck in the 1/4
think about it.. it's no different then the route people go with short shifters, lighter flywheels, and stronger clutchs
basically it really comes down to your personal preference mind you this is from a performance modifying stand point... stock to stock, the 5spd is gonna be a little more performance, while the CVT is a little compromise of daily commuter/family car and spirited runs here and there.
personally I'm tossed up. For me, I need a multipurpose car. I race autoX and TSD rally, but I also need something i can drive literally every day year round (one of the reasons I'm finally buying a brand new car) I also want a car that I work on for fun, not cause I gotta fix the next thing worn out on a used car ( I do that daily already as a mechanic)
I also plan on running a very healthy nitrous shot instead of turbo (mainly cause I can turn it off for the daily grind driving and save fuel/engine stress) and the unknown strength handling of the cvt does worry me a little. on the other side of the coin in autoX or tsd.. just a paddle shift and no clutch to worry about is very inticing.
when I went to set up for my new car.. ofcourse I test drove the 5spd, before I set my final order, I'm gonna take a cvt for a quick run just to see.
as a side note.. for the 0-60 runs, and 1/4 times... how does the CVT power brake before it's launch?? I do hope the people running these 'tests' and such are powerbraking their cvts?????
so basically the point of this ramble was... mt or cvt.. really differs more on what YOU want to do with the car .. in the 1/4 the cvt should be able to make up what ever ground it lost from the launch by the end of the track so they should be neck and neck in the 1/4


