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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 01:33 PM
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Its all ground level driving (<= no interstate) and there are only a few places in Las Vegas (city limits) that are over that. It does really help. There are a lot of things you can do to get better gas milage.

First step is an amputation. Got to cut off the lead foot.

Scott
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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 02:06 PM
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^^^^ That is a bit of a problem when you have 3 pedals to the floor
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 03:06 PM
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^^^^ That is a bit of a problem when you have 3 pedals to the floor
If you have 3 pedals to the floor, your car isn't moving and the motor is screaming at redline. All the while, your clutch is getting worn out from you standing on it. Not very effective...
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 09:12 PM
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thats funny because they really are doing it now
Originally Posted by Blacksheepdj
Not so much "bad shifting" shock but just the forces acting on the drivetrain. When you drop the clutch in a manual, you're putting a lot of stress on those gears. Maybe a tooth or 200 break off. What's the worst that happens in the CVT? Maybe the belt slips. See my point?

I can put my CVT in neutral and coast. And I can manually downshift to save brake pads too. You aren't selling me.

I'm not even engaging in any more CVT w/ turbo debates. I just ask that members not spread speculation and rumors as facts (you aren't, but a lot of people do). Until we see RRM boost a CVT, I'm just waiting and watching.
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Blacksheepdj
If you have 3 pedals to the floor, your car isn't moving and the motor is screaming at redline. All the while, your clutch is getting worn out from you standing on it. Not very effective...
You're correct that the car isn't moving and the motor is screaming at redline. However, your clutch would not be getting worn out, as it would be completely disengaged from the flywheel. Standing on the clutch pedal would put some very small degree of wear/stress on the release lever, throwout bearing, and maybe the hydraulics, but not on the clutch
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 08:57 AM
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Its really good thought to hear that someone has mastered heal-toe driving on the interstate! thats hard core! lol
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Hubley
You're correct that the car isn't moving and the motor is screaming at redline. However, your clutch would not be getting worn out, as it would be completely disengaged from the flywheel. Standing on the clutch pedal would put some very small degree of wear/stress on the release lever, throwout bearing, and maybe the hydraulics, but not on the clutch
That depends on the throw out bearing. Not ALL throw-out bearings are roller type. There are a few throw-out bearings out there that are nothing more than a carbon faced friction plates, and standing on the clutch at a stop light will wear them out in a year or less. Granted, most (if not all) modern cars use roller type throw-out bearings these days.
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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 08:02 AM
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lol god this has a legs and keeps going. CVT has a pulley system. You will remember that the pulley system has been mans greatest feets almost 5000 + years ago, they built pyramids with it, no small feet. A pull system is incredibly small. Heat is the only problem when it comes to pulley's or wenching systems. hense why there is so much fluid and a mini rad for the transmission.

In gear mode (manual) boost in theory should be relavant. the rope/cable/ what ever they are using for the rope lines, they have been rated to last a long time and to handle emense amounts of tension. HEAT is the only factor relavant that can really wear down or shorten the life of line. same for the dynamic pulley system.

A boost project to my knowledge I think is already out and about in japan. the only then they have banded the driver from doing is operating in continous variable mode AKA D mode.

Other then that, I think they are getting close to EVO spec boost without failure
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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by evo_soul
lol god this has a legs and keeps going. CVT has a pulley system. You will remember that the pulley system has been mans greatest feets almost 5000 + years ago, they built pyramids with it, no small feet. A pull system is incredibly small. Heat is the only problem when it comes to pulley's or wenching systems. hense why there is so much fluid and a mini rad for the transmission.

In gear mode (manual) boost in theory should be relavant. the rope/cable/ what ever they are using for the rope lines, they have been rated to last a long time and to handle emense amounts of tension. HEAT is the only factor relavant that can really wear down or shorten the life of line. same for the dynamic pulley system.

A boost project to my knowledge I think is already out and about in japan. the only then they have banded the driver from doing is operating in continous variable mode AKA D mode.

Other then that, I think they are getting close to EVO spec boost without failure
So you think that the current CVT can handle the extra power without failing?
IMO we can speculate as much as we want but only time will show how much power can the CVT take.
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