IMPORTANT - 2008/2009 Lancer window tint problem
Regarding the moleskin solution. I do think that glue coming off is an inevitable problem - and it happens especially with the bottom rubber window guide - because that guide sits more at angle against the glass (versus the top rubber guide, which sits vertical against the glass). The bottom guide presses hard against the glass - and in my mind is most likely to cause the scratching.
In my car, 4 out of the 4 moleskin were fine in the top rubber guides, and 4 out of 4 had glue coming off in the bottom rubber guides. I realize its easy to blame it on "installation error" - but really, the felt was installed with no edges hanging off the rubber, extreme care was put into making sure the moleskin was clean, had no excess glue residue, adhered and cured properly... The problem is in the angle of the bottom guide. It is "tintprotector.com" moleskin.
Given this, and after reading through the tint installers bulletin board, what appears to be the most definitive solution is to actually trim the bottom rubber guide (just the bottom, NOT the top guide).
Question is --> For those that have done this, what is the impact in terms of road and wind noise?
Also, for those that have had NO PROBLEMS with scratching - do you know if the bottom window guide in your Lancer was actually trimmed off?? One installer noted they had done this to about 20 cars and NONE of the 20 cars had come back to complain about scratching... But it also seemed like none of the owners were told the guides were trimmed off (in which case, it would have been easy to assume the moleskin or high quality tint film was the solution)... Clearly, this was a big issue for the installers since none of them liked seeing cars come back for re-installs they would have to cover!
Just trying to isolate what exactly is the optimum solution for preventing scrathes to the tints in our cars - once and for all!
I think tintprotector is great (and their service is good) - but before we assume its the absolute scratch preventer... I'm starting to think it is actually not the FULL solution... I think cutting the bottom guide plus the tintprotector on the top guide may be the best scratch-preventing solution (until Mitsu decides to just make the guides with a softer, felt like material!!!)...
Apologies for the long post! Am still avoiding rolling down my windows until this is settled!
In my car, 4 out of the 4 moleskin were fine in the top rubber guides, and 4 out of 4 had glue coming off in the bottom rubber guides. I realize its easy to blame it on "installation error" - but really, the felt was installed with no edges hanging off the rubber, extreme care was put into making sure the moleskin was clean, had no excess glue residue, adhered and cured properly... The problem is in the angle of the bottom guide. It is "tintprotector.com" moleskin.
Given this, and after reading through the tint installers bulletin board, what appears to be the most definitive solution is to actually trim the bottom rubber guide (just the bottom, NOT the top guide).
Question is --> For those that have done this, what is the impact in terms of road and wind noise?
Also, for those that have had NO PROBLEMS with scratching - do you know if the bottom window guide in your Lancer was actually trimmed off?? One installer noted they had done this to about 20 cars and NONE of the 20 cars had come back to complain about scratching... But it also seemed like none of the owners were told the guides were trimmed off (in which case, it would have been easy to assume the moleskin or high quality tint film was the solution)... Clearly, this was a big issue for the installers since none of them liked seeing cars come back for re-installs they would have to cover!
Just trying to isolate what exactly is the optimum solution for preventing scrathes to the tints in our cars - once and for all!
I think tintprotector is great (and their service is good) - but before we assume its the absolute scratch preventer... I'm starting to think it is actually not the FULL solution... I think cutting the bottom guide plus the tintprotector on the top guide may be the best scratch-preventing solution (until Mitsu decides to just make the guides with a softer, felt like material!!!)...
Apologies for the long post! Am still avoiding rolling down my windows until this is settled!
Get the Tint Protector Lancer kit. Install the moleskin on the top weather strip. Cut the bottom rubber guide off.
You don't want to cut both weather guides off and the top will cause tint scratches if you don't line it with moleskin.
You don't want to cut both weather guides off and the top will cause tint scratches if you don't line it with moleskin.
I just had my tint replaced today. I got it with tint already installed. dont know when they installed it. Scratches all down both drivers side windows after 4 weeks. you could tell it was from rolling the window down. replaced with 3m tint and know to play the waiting game.
09 lancer tinting
I got mine tinted 2 months ago and not one problem with scratches. Don't know what you guys are talking about. I roll down my window 3-4 times a day during the week for the past two months.
The lancers have ZERO felt installed on the inner weather strip. This hard plastic rubs against your tint causing streaking that looks like this.
http://www.tintprotector.com/tintscr...leskinfelt.htm
There is no way any tint can withstand this over time.
Take a closer look at your tint from the inside. You will see these fine lines starting to form on our tint. They will only get worse.
The question is. Install the felt now or be lazy and then install the felt AND pay for a new tint job later. Your choice.
http://www.tintprotector.com/tintscr...leskinfelt.htm
There is no way any tint can withstand this over time.
Take a closer look at your tint from the inside. You will see these fine lines starting to form on our tint. They will only get worse.
The question is. Install the felt now or be lazy and then install the felt AND pay for a new tint job later. Your choice.
update
The moleskin felt went well for a while but it couldn't stop the scratches. I have a lot of scratches on my front windows and a few on the rear(due to them not being used much).
Cutting a portion of the lower rubber blade is the only guaranteed way to prevent scratches. It simply presses too hard on the window.
When the time comes for inspection I'll cut part of the lower blade and put a strip of moleskin on it to help with the added road noise.
i could post pictures of my tint after i installed the tint protector. well my car is about 2 years old and this is i think my 2nd mod coz 1st was my tint. i dont know whats going on. wonder if tint protector still has my account info and such coz the scratches are getting ridiculous.
funk,
You should take a look at the weather strip that is giving you the most trouble.
You would need some seriously big rocks in between the moleskin and the tint for it to scratch.
Almost every person who has the Tint Protector moleskin has no problems after 2+ years.
You should take a look at the weather strip that is giving you the most trouble.
You would need some seriously big rocks in between the moleskin and the tint for it to scratch.
Almost every person who has the Tint Protector moleskin has no problems after 2+ years.
Last edited by flnsx; Oct 27, 2009 at 08:18 PM.
Mine was done by a pro with lifetime guarantee. I took it back after 2 months and they said they can't replace it because our lancers squeeze too tight with the stripping. I took it to a dealership and he suggested I have it redone and purchase this type of grease meant for that purpose or get the kit everyone here is already talking about. I'm just dealing with it, sad though.
I've had the same problem and been wondering the same thing. Taken mine back to the tint shop several times and the installer could tell me nothing. This is all good info! Will go buy product and get tint re-done cant wait for it to look good again! Thanks everyone.
Just a question about cutting the rubber that holds the windows, is there any downside to this? It seems as the cheaper and more permanent/effective solution than to get moleskin. Anyone know the cons of trimming that rubber?
Moleskin works great except for glue streaks lol. Installed it perfectly, rolled it up and down multiple times with no prob. Then one day I get in my car after it had been sitting in the sun (and I live in vegas so it gets HOT) and next thing I know my tint's ****ed up. Guess moleskin wasn't meant to be used in hotter climates lol.


