I never got an answer to a previous question pertaining to this, so I'm just running hypotheses here but:

How about instead of loss of traction, its clutch slippage? Leomon never clarified whether he was hearing tires squealing or seeing any smoke, but just that there was a "loss of 'traction'". Clutch slippage would be much easier to believe than the car actually letting the tires loose in motion.

This leads me to this theory. If you're experiencing slippage of any sort at 50% or less throttle, I find it very hard to grasp the idea that the tires are actually cutting loose. Very hard indeed.

Possibility: The clutch system was set too tight at factory maybe. This caused the clutch to never become fully disengaged when your foot was off the pedal, causing a ton of premature wear on the plate. This wear has finally gotten to the point that the tight system is no longer allowing the clutch plate to make complete contact, causing slippage at any RPM that would produce enough power to slip. Maybe?

A certified professional will be able to tell you for sure.

 

you should have someone take a vid of you driving the car....

 

I don't think clutch slippage would cause a lose of traction since if you're clutch is slipping less power is making it to the ground. If he's actually experiencing slippage, it's a problem with the driver not the car. You can get a 100 hp civic to slip from a dead roll if you engage the clutch too fast/at too high an RPM.

 

Okay well im not sure if its clutch slippage or not. But im fully clutched out becuase im accelerating and my foot is off the clutch, im in first gear, going from 1-2-3krpm,

Im sure im fully clutched out becuase i dont accelerate right away from stop i engage in and slowly accelerate with my foot off the clutch from 1-2krpm.
Then when i feel like im moving with my foot off the clutch, i then increase the throttle and i can start slipping at 50% or more throttle in 1st gear, I dont have any problems in 2nd gear tho

if i hammer down on the throttle harder at around 2-4krpm then my car starts shaking violently, i dont feel liek im accelerating anymore becuase i "hear" and feel my tired slipping. More like hopping would be a good word to describe it.

Hawkeye, u have not lost traction>???? so when u are fully clutched out at low speeds like 2-4km/h and u hammer on the thorttle in first gear all the way to 5000 or more rpm your car does not hop or lose traction????

I know this is an econobox with stock tired suspension front 2WD, so im just wondering if this is normal. seems like many people arent experiance what i a tho, maybe ill take a video

 

I was talking to my friend and he said it might be my shocks, cuz when i accelerate to fast, my shocks bounce around to much which is why the front of my car hops and feels like it looses traction.

Comments?

 

I highly doubt it's your shocks, it's just your driving.

 

I think if it would be the clutch slipping in 1st gear you might have noticed that a lots earlier in4th and 5th gear. I mean thats when you notice the clutch slip first, not 1st gear. Go get driving lessons. no offense. I know tons of people who drive standard like idiots because they were taught wrong.

 

If a carpenter builds a crooked house frame; it's not fault of the hammer, drill, or the saw. I personally don't think it's your shocks, tires or clutch that's to blame....the nut behind the wheel just needs to be tightened a bit.

 

well then what am i doing wrong.

like i said, i can be travelling at 5km/h with my foot off the clutch.

I would think that obviously i am in gear. i can travel like that for a while say 30 seconds. there no way i would not be fully in gear if i was travelling at 5km/h in 1st gear for like 30 seconds just giving it a little gas.

Now STILL in first gear i press down a little more on the throttle, rises to 2krpm then i go to over 50% throttle and before i reach 4krpm my car starts hopping losign traction etc etc.

im just pressing gas here. what can i possibly be doing wrong.

This does NOT happen in 2nd gear. i can shift to second gear, and go through the whole rpm range of the engine without a slip or hop.

 

still think you should get a video from outside the car. A slow driveby at 5mph and then floor it so we can see what you are talking about. If your foot is off the clutch in 1st gear and you are able to floor it and spin the tires then you either have a freak engine or there is something seriously wrong in the driveline.

 

better tires and driving school..nuff said

 

What you are experiencing is called tire hop. One way to reduce this is going to aftermarket engine mounts that are stiffer, but then you will notice more engine vibration transfered to the chassis. The engine torques up and "twists" inside the engine bay and when the tire loses traction is "untwists" and the when it grabs again its so much torque that the engine twists severely and you lose traction again. This all happens fast creating the hopping/shaking you are experiencing. In other words. Lay off the throttle a bit in 1st. If I want to launch fast I let the clutch out at about 1500 and after I know I have traction I lay into it all the way, and usually I don't have any problems. Sometimes I need to feather the throttle so I maintain my co-efficient of friction. If you are cornering or going uphill, or have a bad road that would compromise traction then you will slip. But mostly the car holds for me. If this isn't the case for you I would go to the dealer and make sure. Its really hard to diagnose if its a mechanical problem without a video or being there in person.

 

I dont know about anyone else, but where i would normally get a chirp of the tires shifting into 2nd gear, i am now getting a hard "hop". Almost sounds as though my tranny is snapping.

 

Hmmm, maybe stop driving so hard on a stock clutch? I dont know, maybe the engine mounts are just deteriorating before the clutch does. I haven't had any hopping in second gear, only in first with bad traction. But none the less, bad traction will create tire hop with this stock lancer. You have to be careful considering this car doesn't have traction control.

 

This is what I was looking for. Thanks for answering the question, leomon.

It's not clutch slippage then. And no, I still have not experienced this. And I've been trying real hard to, just to see if I can get a bearing on your situation and offer more help.

Easy driving situation, I'm completely off the clutch 1st gear at about 1100 rpms. From that point, I can go completely WOT all the way to redline without losing any traction. The only time I've lost traction in gear was during last week's snow.

Perhaps a video would be the best evidence in this situation.