Hey guys.

I dont know about you guys but there is smth that doesnt really make sense to me.

So here is what happens,

Its a red light.
I clutch into first gear and im ready to go.

Green light

I drop the clutch and rev the gas to make sure i engage, they i put the petal to the medal to 4000rpm, at that point i notice im starting to lose traction so i ease off the throttle and shift to second gear becuase im afraid ill lose more traction at the higher rpms.

Why am i losing traction at above 4000rpm its not like i have alot of power behind the engine. Its not raining or anything, if it does rain it gets 2x worse.

My question is if i am losing traction with a pip squeak 152 hp then how in the hell do those 300+ hp enginers do okay and rev that high?

or is smth wrong with my driving or the car?

 

You're driving like an idiot (gotta be honest).

300+ hp engineers drive cars with LSDs and good tires and better suspensions. You're driving an econobox with cheapo tires, an open differential, and econobox comfort suspension.

You can't expect to hold traction by dropping the clutch and mashing the gas in any car. ****, I could do a burnout in my 120hp Lancer. What makes you think you can't in your 150hp Lancer?

 

okay lol maybe i exaggerated.
i make sure im moving quite a bit then i throttle down all the way not super fast but enough.

so i guess i just gotta lighten the throttle a bit.

i wonder how the lancer can get 0-60 at 7.7 seconds if its losing traction all the time in first gear

 

What he said.

The Lancer 5MT is pretty easy to get the tires loose. I find my tires slipping when just easing off the clutch in normal driving conditions.

Now here's what gets me - you say you drop the clutch and rev the gas. If you're doing just what it sounds like, you're hurting your car. There may be a problem already if that's how you handle it. The clutch and tranny are pretty strong, but still won't stand to any extended amount of abuse.

When you say you're losing trac at 4k, what do you hear? Do you actually hear the tires slipping, or is it just the tach jumps up and you stop accelerating?

edit: you hadn't posted when I started writing this.

 

They use professional drivers who know how to launch.

 

maybe im using the wrong terms.

i engage the clutch, and start moving.

When my foot is off the clutch and im moving, i rev it up.

i am not revving up to 4k then dropping the clutch.

I did it from a full stop gave it a little gas, engaged began to move, totally released the clutch. then pushed down on the gas a bit harder, then it started slipping.

 

just as long as i know that its easy to get the tires loose on the 5MT then im good.

Cuz i was wondering if it was happening to only me

thats what u get for driving AT all your life

lol

 

I know what are you referring to, because I was used to AT too, and on top of that the car was rwd. Now I have a 5MT= and fwd= and also blacksheep I'm having the same problem as you because when I try to accelerate my DE tends to pull to the right it even scares me sometimes, this is why I hated fwd cars haha...

 

I've never experienced loss of traction in this car while moving. Except for shifting into second

But I seriously don't believe there is enough rotational force in this engine (torque) especially at the top end to set the tires loose while in gear at 4000 RPMs. Even at WOT. You may have a problem and a trip to your dealership may be in your future.

 

Your serious hawkeye?

When im moving at about lets say 1.5krpm 1st gear and i push harder on the gas the car starts to slip or so i think it is, but once i get to second gear thats no problem.

I cant push the throttleall the way down on 1st gear in the power band because the car starts to slip.
so im forced to shift to second gear at 4-5k rpm

So you can go to 6500rpm in 1st gear without a slip? 100% traction all the way if u go 80-100% throttle?

you dont experiance that at all hawkeye???

 

I've never experienced tire slip on accident either. And have only been able to do it purposely in the rain. Besides a little squeak shifting hard to 2nd. But I have Fuzion HRi tires.

 

yeah I have this problem as well

 

I can go from idle (or as close as I can out of clutch) all the way to redline at WOT and there is no slippage or loss of traction at all.

Dude even in my Impala it was hard to get the tires loose in gear. It took a good amount of modification to get that. It had almost 2x the power and torque, and only weighed 400 lbs more than the Lancer.

 

Doug covered it, don't drive like a dink and you'll be fine. I could get the tires slipping in my old lancer and that thing wasn't exactly a powerhouse. It isn't necessarily the raw torque of the car, it's how it comes on. If you go from 20 ft-lbs to 150 ft-lbs over a 100 RPM span, they tires will break loose because they are shocked. If you go from 20 ft-lbs to 400 ft-lbs over a 2000 RPM range, you'll be fine since it's more gradual. Same rule applies when you dump the clutch, you're going from nothing to everything instantly.

 

i know what you mean, it kinda feels like wheel hop when you are reaching the end of 1st gear (experienced it a little bit, more so on concrete ) i think a couple of suspension adjustement and stiffer engine mount would really help this!