fastest NA auto huh....I'd give that a run for his mulla.....no ecu yet either...

 

Hey now, Boe made those claims, not me. I do have to agree with Boe on the sales of the ECU, seems people have shyed away or something. Like I said before, this mod is the icing on the cake, fellow auto owners need to jump on this one right away. Don't be shy, you KNOW you want one!

 

If anyone has 550 bucks, Ill buy one right away. Seriously, dont fault auto owners for not buying a pricey item. I dont have money for a catback, wihich in turn translates into no money for ecu. If I did have the money Id still be cautious. First of all, what if I want to go turbo in the future? Do I send the ecu back to RRM to get reflashed back to stock settings??? Second, Its a mod that I cannot sell off the car if I get in a tight spot with money or I sell the car and want to part out the aftermarket items.

Oh, by the way, I doubt RRM would discontinue this item. They have done the maps, it would be foolish to turn away anyone that wanted a reflash, regradless if they get 1000 a year or 1 a year. R&D is done, and theres relatively little cost rapped up in the actual reflash.....

 

Lets see... cost for cores... cost for R&D... cost for marketing... cost for sitting on non-selling item... i'd say there is a lot of negatives on it worth a scrapping. Plus people are saying "what if i go turbo!!" You know there are a lot of NA ecu's out there that are enjoying the hell out of them... some say it's the best mod they've done so far. I know J likes his and is stomping on guys around his town. Where was their fear for going turbo later... many don't want turbo and some just know that as always RRM will treat them right when it comes time to go turbo and change ecu's. I'm not jumping on auto guys and it is no secret how strongly i support RRM... it just doesn't seem right to me that many HARPED on ROCK for it then not a single one has sold. Hell he answered hundreds of emails about its progress and pricing... all were ready and willing then so he invested a lot to get it then the let down began. NA 5-speed came out and we've sold a bunch of them withing a short period. I know its only been out a while i just expected a little bit better showing of it. I'd like to see auto guys getting it and hitting the tracks. I'm just big on lancers getting fast is all... i wish they could all be evo fast and that they'd never lose a race. I'll be a lancer lover till the end and an RRM supporter even after i die!!

Auto guys/lancers everywhere out there just step up and kick some but with turbo, ECU's, exhausts whatever just do the lancer proud as you always do!!

 

You dont get the point. It was my understanding that you send an ECU and it gets reflashed, meaning the cost for cores for RRM is minimal. Second, R&D cost has already been paid, no R&D is ongoing for the autos if, as Rob said, the auto is done. Third, there is no cost to RRM for sitting on an unsold item, its not like storage for an ECU is causing them to rent out more space.

My point is this Boe, and maybe taking an industrial engineering or economics class would help explain this better. If everything is paid for already, it would be foolish for RRM to discontinue an item that has relatively low cost for them to reproduce. The only thing RRM has to pay for now is shipping ECUs back out and the actual reflash of individual ECUs, which the fuel maps have already been created for. Im not going to analyze RRMs ECU business anymore, so Im done with that.

Yes Boe, everyone knows your big on RRM. I think we all are, as they continue to offer parts for our cars when few other companies will. But dude, dont make RRM out to be hurting over this ECU thing. Besides, the only thing I want to know now is can the ECU be reflashed back for a minimal price? Boe, you saying RRM will treat people right when they want to go turbo doesnt tell me anything. As many in the business world have learned, it means nothing if its not in writing. I just want to be assured that before I drop 550 bucks on an ECU reflash that I can get it back to stock parameters for whatever reason in the future. If that causes you to become upset, too bad. Playing games like saying "where was their fear for going turbo later" is like trying to get someone to jump off a bridge because others already have. I want to know everything about that bridge before I even consider jumping......

(Boe, do NOT consider this a personal attack, that was not my reason for writing)

 

I'm going to buy one in a week or two...just taking me forever to come to the realization that I'm staying N/A.

 

yeah this auto n/a ecu has got me to rethink my plan on mods...

 

How, if RRM paid for the R&D and the ecu cores... that's right cores so that you get your stuff faster... is everything paid for without selling it?? You have to sell some to not only make back whats invested but to make money at all in the future. Yes the R&D is done but the cost is not recouped nor is the product making any profit sitting there.

Listen to you about economics and engineering... you have no idea what the reflash costs to due... yet you say its low!! You need to research this field i think and determine where your loss and gain is due to the relationship between R&D, marketing, actual/projected sales and that taking into consideration initial investment which is still out of the negative cash pool! Take that to your professor and smoke it!

RRM is a small company that has done great things for all our cars... you make it out like they are this big factory with a work force of thousands... there is one owner and now three employees and one is part time!! All the products you get are due to hours of their labor and investment. The biggest investor beeing ROCK(AKA Robert Tallini-owner RRM). Also they have done more than any other and even though they are just a tiny spec in this game of aftermarket performance they appear as one of the biggest/the biggest for the most part. If people don't want it then don't get it if you do you do... end result is that people asked for it even harped for it then NO ONE has come through. I think that is messed up!

As for a personal attack i don't take this as such... everyone knows my support is there and even if you've only bought one thing from RRM your support is there to. Looking for all the facts and every details before spending money is fine but asking for something, in which one has to invest his time and money into, then not coming through is wrong and i feel bad for RRM in that respect. People call all the time for sponsorship deals and get turned down... often you'd wonder why and things like this contribute to that... no one likes being burned when they give so much! That's my reply to you and yours... basically the end of my heartfelt rant!

 

For those that are just saving i'm not attacking anyone or anything i'm just suprised that this isn't taking off that well. There was a lot of support and desire on this and its a great product... J'slancer confirmed that! Good luck to those striving to be fast... those who are already and to those who havn't even gotten started!

 

Smoke this, Boe. Your ignorance doesnt let you see my point. Everything RRm has paid in R&D has been done. It costs them very little to reflash each ECU at this point, this point being after R&D is OVER with. Im not talking long run in making up their investment. Im saying if they pull the plug right now on auto ECUs. they lose everything. If they just let it sit, every future auto reflash will go towards making their investment back. Dont talk crap man, I could car less about you and your know it all attitude. If you dont have the ***** to admit I am correct, then me trying to prove my point is, well, pointless. This comes down to the simple fact that you are unable to comprehend my point. Oh yea, and what marketing has been done on this product? A post on their web site and on these forums. Seriously, calm down, think about what you are saying, and lets act like we are adults, not third graders. Im done here, Im not going to turn this thread into another arguement between me and you.

Ill end on this. If you wanted the auto ECU, Im sure its a worthwhile upgrade. If i could make up my mind on future plans or know how much a reflash back to stock parameters would cost, Id be getting one. Go buy one, Im sure Boe will thank you.

 

Whoa! Everyone be nice.
If you want an ECU they are truly worthwhile. As for the work we put in, it was quite a lot. We have to pay a hacker for each one he flashes too. We mapped out what to flash. Unfortunately we don't make as much on the reflashes as they do. See my point!

I will do this though, because you do not know what you are missing. FIRST GUY TO ORDER AUTO ECU, PAY FOR IT, MONDAY ON THE PHONE, GETS IT FOR $499. That way he or she can spread the word too! CALL MONDAY if you are interested in this deal.


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http://www.roadracemotorsports.com/

 

RRM does it again, I'm telling you auto guys, you should be all over this mod!

As for Tristar... you need to BACK OFF! You have absolutely NO idea what has been going on, or what money has been spent etc. as far as cores, r&d, etc. go. You weren't there, and you didn't spend any of your money on this. Quite honestly, your ranting in your post IS pointless cause you are completely clueless as to what has been done to get this ECU mod going. It blows my mind that someone like you actually has the ***** to come in here and try to spout off when you don't have the facts!

 

It blows my mind your as ignorant as you are. If you think that RRM will lose less money pulling the plug on auto ECUS than it would if they just held on for a while, than your ranting is pointless as well. Thanks a bunch for the heads up. Someone like me, that quote is priceless. I think I made a new friend today.......

 

****...I want to be the first guy on Monday, but I've got to wait til my check clears the bank....

 

I reallllly realllly wish i could but my i just paid all my bills and my cards are maxxed out! dammmmmit..i do plan on it being my next mod though. Don't have any plans of going turbo.