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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 09:53 AM
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Wow! comparing and evo to a supra in drag racing
waste of time here.
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 09:55 AM
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Jasil,

I've enjoyed drag racing for a little while now and I've always used large displacement 8 cylinders as a platform. I bought an Evo with the intent of making big power because it is move of a challenge than it was with a large displacement engine. Making power and running fast 1/4 times in a Supra, Mustang, etc., became boring and relatively easy.

Trying to run 9's with a 2.0L 4 cylinder, now that's a challenge and a lot of fun. Nothing against the Supra as it's a great car. I had one in '94 and really enjoyed it.
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 3000ways
I visit a lot of forums, and I noticed that every forum seems to have the resident troll that just won't go away, I guess Jasil, your our resident troll, just because you own an EVO or claim to doesn't give you a free pass from being a troll.
+1

Seriously, you can't even compare the two cars. They are very different and were bult for two different reasons. You need to remember, the Evo was designed as a rally car. I'd like to see a Supra set up to rally. The fact we can pull some of these times with these cars is an accomplishment.
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 09:59 AM
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Yep, that's me 3000ways, I buy EVO parts just for the hell of it. There was no one in that thread that said anything about supras. Dan's EVO is my favorite EVO...period...from a performance standpoint. My post was not to bash EVO's, but to show how fast supras have become over the last 18 months....mainly due to the use of nitrous and autos though. The Supra>EVO was just to get views, but it is true too when comparing drag times the times speak for themselves. Just like if I said mustangs>supra which is true too in a drag aspect the times speak for themselves.

BTW...I'm on just about every forum and have been for years some dating back to 1999 probably before many on this forum even had a license.

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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 09:59 AM
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like the people above me sai, you are comparing 2 different beasts. sure, the supras are insane down the 1/4 mile but how about you bring one of those 1400whp supras to a road track and watch how a stock evo wipes the floor with it. different cars, different goals.

if you think that your x car (any car) is the best in the world you are a fool... there will always be better and faster cars...
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by blonde
like the people above me sai, you are comparing 2 different beasts. sure, the supras are insane down the 1/4 mile but how about you bring one of those 1400whp supras to a road track and watch how a stock evo wipes the floor with it. different cars, different goals.

if you think that your x car (any car) is the best in the world you are a fool... there will always be better and faster cars...

Very true statement, but can be said about any car set up for drag EVO's included. For the record **blonde** EVO's make much better track cars than drag cars!!
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 10:07 AM
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TT viper > all cars that have been previously mentioned in this thread

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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Jasil
Yep, that's me 3000ways, I buy EVO parts just for the hell of it. There was no one in that thread that said anything about supras. Dan's EVO is my favorite EVO...period...from a performance standpoint. My post was not to bash EVO's, but to show how fast supras have become over the last 18 months....mainly due to the use of nitrous and autos though. The Supra>EVO was just to get views, but it is true too when comparing drag times the times speak for themselves. Just like if I said mustangs>supra which is true too in a drag aspect the times speak for themselves.

BTW...I'm on just about every forum and have been for years some dating back to 1999 probably before many on this forum even had a license.

notabusinessracing.org
svtperformance.com
modularfords.com
corral.com
supraforums.com
rx7club.com...............you think I'm negative here I HATE ROTARIES!!!!!
nsxprime.com
sportsnimports.com
ls1tech.com
corvetteforums.com
viperclub.org
viperalley.com
ls1.com
ls2.com
Like I said you, don't seem to be a bad guy, but I really don't understand you sometimes. You claim Dan's EVO is your favorite, but then you minimize his accomplishment with a unneeded thread comparing EVO to Supras, and directly use Dan's EVO in your initial post, interesting.

Also, the Supra is great car, but it's no god, imagine if the EVO was available in the USA in the 1994, imagine the possibilities. Yes there was the DSM, but the EVO is not a DSM, and with that said the DSM has accomplished a lot and I'm sure if the EVO would have been available earlier the numbers would have been even better. When I first came to this website, I was shocked and amazed to see EVOs making 500-600WHP, then a year later, 700WHP, then, 800WHP, and now 900WHP. The truth be told is that we really don't have the slightest idea what the EVO is and will be capable of one day. The Supra is great, but the EVO is the new and now, and get over it.

But since you seem intent on talking solely USDM EVO to USDM Supra, you cannot ignore that the EVO has had a relatively short production run, compared to the 2JZ Supra which has been around since 1993, even though production ended, tuners still have been tuning for another 8 years. I can almost guarrantee the EVO is much further ahead of the Supra when the 2JZ Supra TT was in it's third year of production in USA. Let's talk 10 years from now, and see where we stand.
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 10:21 AM
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How much would a 1994 Supra be in 2006 dollars? I beleive they'd be close to $100K adjusted for inflation no? For a car that did high 13's in the quarter mile???
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by blonde
like the people above me sai, you are comparing 2 different beasts. sure, the supras are insane down the 1/4 mile but how about you bring one of those 1400whp supras to a road track and watch how a stock evo wipes the floor with it. different cars, different goals.

if you think that your x car (any car) is the best in the world you are a fool... there will always be better and faster cars...

unless you are the one with the fastest..... j/k
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Kordwood
How much would a 1994 Supra be in 2006 dollars? I beleive they'd be close to $100K adjusted for inflation no? For a car that did high 13's in the quarter mile???
are you saying how much would they be if they were still produced? I'd say anywhere from 40-60K

Look at the BMW M3. 60K for a 13sec car. And that's BMW. Not toyota.
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Kordwood
How much would a 1994 Supra be in 2006 dollars? I beleive they'd be close to $100K adjusted for inflation no? For a car that did high 13's in the quarter mile???
Ummm...no.
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 10:35 AM
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3000ways, I've said at least 10 times throughout the boards that Dan's is my favorite, but I used his car and AMS's for comparison too! I would have used Chris's too, but he doesn't track the car hopefully soon he will go to the track, but I doubt it.

As far as EVO's getting more and more powerful nothing that hasn't been done in the DSM world before it was just getting the parts to fit on the EVO. Unless people start spraying this is about all you are going to see in the power dept. Now it becomes how do we get it to the ground that's where the real issues are and have alwasy been for AWD cars.

Ivey ran 9's years ago, Extreme ran 8's, Shep ran 8's it's just getting everything to fit a EVO.
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 04:32 PM
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No argument here, the Supra is a bad *** car, it has been around the USA for a lot longer but, I doubt after 10 years the EVO will have achieved as much as the Supra has as far as straightline performance, but who knows? I also know that the 4G63 has been available for a while in the USA and it is part of the reason why the EVO has leg up in performance potential over it's rivals, but still to achieve the numbers comparable (specifically for the EVO) to the Supra takes time, maybe in 10 years they'll some EVOs in the 8s, and many more in the 9s, and this from a car that has owners split on using their car to drag race or not.

But seriously the Supra is a great car, but here we go again Jasil, why post this? Dan runs in the 9s, did anybody claim the EVO was a better car than the Supra, why is there a need to compare the two. Dude your pessimestic view of the world and the EVO community is a real downer man. Seriously dude, if I was a moderator I would have had you banned a long time ago, just my opinion.
Well I do remember a thread on here a couple months ago about an argument between which one was a better car. They (evo community) was going as far as to say that evos matched up with supras in drag racing. Guess that is disproved. Also, I here that supras are just good for straight line racing. Let's not forget who wins most of the GT races (I know it's a race version). There are always 2-3 supras in the top 5 and one usually wins. I own both and know their strengths and weaknesses. I will also say this, I get a LOT more looks driving around in the supra than I do in the evo.
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 04:40 PM
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Wait a second, you figured out a car with 1 more liter of displacement, and 2 more cylinders has more potential for power? Should we call MENSA about this?

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