Ok. So that makes it even more impressive that the Evos are doing as well as they are - and will be even more this year with the cars that now have 1-200 more WHP than last year...

I still don't think anyone doubts that the Supra is the ultimate Muscle Car (read: drag car) of Japan, it fits nicely inbetween the Evo and the z06

 

actually there was a supra the won the Grp 5 SCCA rally championship back in 2000. It was run by Ralph Kosmedies as you can see in the attached pic.

 

About a supra winning a rally, if everybody on this board started searching now for all the rally championship wins by an EVO, we might come up with the number in a couple months, if we have a good calculator. ****, porsche has won the Paris-Dakar rally, but it doesnt mean the cars are well suited to it, some people race semis........

Scorke

 

never said the supra was well suited for it. Actually quite the opposite. Ralph routinely had trouble keeping the brakes under the car (the car was heavy and cooked brakes) and with ungodly rear tire wear.

midwestmonster asked to see one so I showed him one that I knew off the top of my head. It didn't win a rally, it won the class championship too. I love my evo, but the supras are fun cars at tje same time.

 

why compare the cars in the first place... that just enrages people. everyone has a favorite "better" car. its not how fast a car is or its 1/4 mile time is all about what the person whats in the car. sure who ever owns an evo could have had a supra...... but they didn't they bought the evo because it clicked something in side them, thats why they bought it. hell i drive a porsche and every time i see an evo my knees bend and i can't help but think.... damn thats a beatiful car. don't compare cars this whole fighting that everyone does (domestics vs imports etc. etc.) pisses me off. we are all car enthusiasts and we all love our cars for the same reason. we should all just be happy that we are part of something so great as an automobile.

 

Supras are cool, but SO totally overrated and played out now that its not even funny anymore. Everybody is so used to seeing 1000 whp ones, that even a Supra with 650 whp is almost scoffed at today.

I like the Evo because for some reason everywhere I go, people don't think its that fast...plus even with 500+ whp, I'll still have traction in the first 3 gears.

 

if i said there are countless american cars in the 8's and including NA ones in the 9's could i say they are all better cars than the supra? by your logic they are. no one is claiming the supra is a horrible car, it probably has one of the best engines ever made, but it is a different car than the evo. the evo may never be directly as fast as the supra but the supra cost over twice as much as the evo when it was here. thats like saying a 911 turbo or viper is a better car than the supra. different cars different classes. supra is a nice car. but the evo is more well rounded car.

 

People keep forgetting these Supra's that are running these times are full on race cars. Not daily driven or full weight. You gotta remember most of these Evo running these times have lost weight but are not full on drag cars or RWD. Also there is no replacement for Displacement. And the Supra does have it compared to the Evo. I gotta give the Supra it's props they are one of the original Japanese Super Cars.

 

Not True, 1.5 Liter F1 motors made well over 1500 HP at some insane boost. If you could rev the 4G63 to something crazy like 15,000 RPM's it would move the same air as a larger engine at slower RPM's. But that is F1 with exotic heads and cams that breath that high.

One of those Supras had a racing Auto. If you somehow put in a sick High stall turbo tranny in an Evo, not ONLY would you be running a 11.3 at like 116MPH, you would be into the 8's at a lower Speed then that Supra.

Last time at the Track I saw a Scooby Wagon running low 11's with a VF34 with a Turbo Tranny. Sucked at daily driving but left at FULL boost and never lifed to shift so the motor was ALWAYS WOT.

 

Apples and oranges and so what

Most of the people on here have alot of respect for Supra's and any other performance car. One big difference between the two cars is that the Supra was ahead of its time (as was the 3rd Gen rx7) while the Evo is almost overhyped now thanks to the F&F mania.

 

Well said

 

both cars are extremely respectable for what they are, they both bring a lot of difference qualities to the table, i think it's hard to say that the supra is hands down better than the evo, but it is one of the most badass cars out there i think.

 

from what I know, supra>evo in drag anyday (with good driver of course).

I think someone asked about supras for sale. heres one in mass area. 1987, 10k invested

http://boston.craigslist.org/car/144296973.html

 

Falken,

You are correct .. the reason why Formula one powered by turbocharges was banned in the mid 80's is simply because the cars were making absolutely unsane amounts of power.
They were running 5.5bars which is about 80psi plus and running strraight and pure methanol.

Part of the Formula One banning is because for first time in history the mechanical aspect was 10-15 years ahead of the Aerodinamic.

Formula one cars were phisically flying in the air in the straight ways, absolutely too much speed, too light car and Aerodynamic was insuficient.

Carlos

 

As far is the Supra from Ryan Woon, it is a real beast, not only I have seen it in person in the dyno multiple times at Apexmotorsports(his brothers shop in Tucson) but I also ran against him.

Before they went with the stocker(3.4l) they were stuck at 9.4@156 for nearly a year.

Keep in mind guys, they say that this car is a "street car", I say BS. This car ALWAYS arrives to the track with a full 26-28 ft trailer with huge ramp and a full crew and it runs on C22. They always have to prep the car very well prior to the run and they typically run one or twice in the entire night.

Just my .2c

Carlos