you haven't been in general forum then

 

im still confused as why theres such a tight comparasion isnt 'STI' suburus tuning division? meaning its tuned past the regular WRX? maybe its me. but i dont see a 'RALLIART' EVO out there. because isnt 'RALLIART' mitsubishis tuning division? why is there such a comparasion to a car that has seen the tuning division of a company to a car who hasnt seen their respective tuning divison? ive always wondered.

 

good point...

a RALLIART evo would be a different comparison...

 

Remembr everyone, more competetive pricing is better for the market. What do they compete over? us! If there is always somewhere else to go, it will drive everything (well most things) to be better for us. Service, price, etc etc

Thats why monopolies are illegal

 

Well, there is also S202 to compare with the Ralliart.

 

Anyone anywhere get real info about the Sti's curb weight?

SC~

 

You EVO guys need to learn your own history. All the EVO's up through the VI were built by Ralliart wether it was a Ralliart edition or not. EVO = STI, it always has been. MMC has taken over production now, but they haven't changed the fact that the EVO competes with the STI. Any special editions they come out with are just that, special editions. It's like when Subaru did the 22b, the S202, etc. Mitsubishi doesn't really have anything that competes directly with the WRX in the US market. I'm skeptical of this mythical Ralliart EVO people keep bringing up. I think that rumor started from the Ralliart Lancer announcement. IMO, they've already bastardized the Ralliart name by putting it on the regular Lancer and Eclipse.

 

'EVO guys need to learn our history' check out my profile bro. i dont own an evo. and you say 'all the EVOs up through the VI were built by RALLIART' but i could swear im talking about the VIII. theres a few more 'I's in the one im refering to. is the STI WRX not a special edition? i honestly have no clue. to me it would be. i dont think EVERYTHING thing suburu makes is a STI... wouldnt the STI WRX be a special edition? i still dont see the comparison. one is a stock car and the other has seen its companys racing division.

 

Is exactly the same weight as EVO w/o sunroof. 3263lbs

 

You are very right Ben. I was just about to post the same reference Ralliart. The US Evo does compete with the US Sti. Just because the Sti has dccd and a few more hp doesn't mean they aren't a closely matched car. We will see a bunch of Sti vs. Evo comparisons here soon ....I doubt we'll see many Evo vs. Wrx comparisons....the US version of both are going to be a good matchup. Just pick which one you like and be happy

 

So what is your original point anywayz???

 

He means up to the VI. Meaning the VIII, no matter if it's j-spec or US spec is MMC built. They aren't custom done by Ralliart. Ralliart has input on a bunch of things...but they have transitioned to a "slowed assembly line". All Evo's are made on that line. That is one reason the US will not likely ever see over 6500 Evo's a year. The slowed assembly process puts a limit on the amount of cars that can be produced.
I'm not real sure about how the Sti is produced. BUT I would compare Mitsu's Evo which has Ralliart input, etc. to Subarus Wrx Sti.

 

The point is the regular EVO historically has been built by Ralliart. So historically the EVO is just like the STI. In the VII MMC took over production but they didn't change the fact that it competes directly with the STI.

Forget all that though, who cares what name is on the car. The fact is the EVO and STI are priced basically the same. That makes them direct competitors. Why you would try to compare it to a lower priced car from Subaru is beyond me.

 

There are also UPGRADE STi parts for the IMPREZA STi, the ones that came with the car is a basic version of the STi parts, if you would compare an EVO with Ralliart parts, you would compare it with an IMPREZA STi with upgrade STi parts.

 

Comparing the EVO to the WRX would be akin to comparing the WRX to the regular Lancer. They are very dissimilar in performance and pricing. I believe Mitsu currently does not have anything in the niche that the WRX is occupying (all wheel drive + turbo). Hopefully they will fill this void at that price point to give the Mitsu fans in that portion of the market something. Currently they do have the Eclipse GTS (front wheel drive 210 hp) in or near the WRX price point. There is rumor of some kind of RalliArt package for the regular Lancer. I don’t know if it’s just a looks package or a performance package. Hopefully both. The EVO is the direct competitor to the STi. About the same performance for about the same pricing. I’m sure the pricing will be right on top of each other once Mitsu decides to ship the EVO with the six speed MT, front LSD and possibly AYC/ACD. Both the RalliArt and Prodrive packages for the EVO and STi would probably be some sort of dealer installed package. They definitely would be considered after-market and probably labeled by the factory as “for off road use only”. If there were some problem down the line after the install of these packages for both vehicles, there could be some warranty voiding going on. That last line is just a little food for thought.

Mitsu Lancer = Suby Impreza = the bottom of the lineup
Mitsu ??? (possible Lancer RalliArt package) = Subaru WRX = next rung up
Mitsu EVO = Suby STi = top of the line from the factory (FHI = Suby = STi, all in the same house)
Mitsu RalliArt EVO = Suby Prodrive STi = sort of factory associated/approved after market shops.