THATS NOTHING! FORGET COBRAS

i have nothin to say but hate

 

sure...but on a new thread.

 

I agree, "bolt-on" is a very vague term nowadays. Anything that doesn't require removing the head is a bolt on.

1. It would cost more than $5,000 in a Cobra to keep up with an Evo with those mods.

2. What type of traction do you think the Cobra would get on the street, even with slicks.

3. How much would it cost to make the Cobra hanlde like the Evo.

I can't remember who mentioned it in the post, I agree that we should have nothing but hate for domestics (all of them). If you go to streetfire.net and look at any videos of Evos beating domestics (especially LS1s or Cobras), the domestic guys immediately start bashing Evos as four dour pecies of Jap crap. They even do it to the Supras.

 

No, I don't, but I do consider ported stock blowers a bolt on and people are now seeing 125-127mph traps with those and mid 10 second E.T's. The have ported stock blower cars with 30-50 shots of nitrous running 10.0@141mph now FWIW.

As far as price if you do all of the work 20K might be steep, but not if you bring it to a shop.

Engine-3K
Head-1.6K
Clutch-1.5K
Fuel-700
Guages-300
AEM-2000
Turbokit-3500 avg. price not Buschur (3k), but not AMS's either (4.5k)
Exhaust-750
Intercooler w/pipes/BOV-1100
Meth kit- 500
Installation/tuning- 3500

I guess you're right it would only be 18-19K.

 

Let's do some quick refreshing here Broke7's car raced Chris's car when it had a 35R on it and was neck and neck to 120mph. The cobra had 5K in it versus 20K for Chris's car. This was roll racing though at the track Chris ran a 7.1-7.3 at the 1/8 while Allen (Broke7) was running 6.70's in the 1/8. Later on ran a 10.6@132mph on that same 5K set up.

Venomous (John) has run a 10.01@141mph on that same 5K modlist, but add a 75 shot of nitrous.

In the end it all goes back to money spent. You could drop 25K into honda civics and start owning most EVO's from a roll day in and day out, but does that matter to you?

Most domestic owners think the same thing about EVO's. "Great it's fast, but look how much money they had to put in it and it needs race gas to do it" this is a very real concern for the average enthusiast. If you have a family and kids etc these are real considerations and if you don't street race and just go to the track the answer as to which car to pick becomes easy.

The Jap/Crap comments are by mostly kids! A real enthusiast will see the performance not make/model that doesn't matter. Many times you can read the poster's age by what they post hence "Jap/Crap POS stupid tin can" or "JDM rulez my 4 cyl. spanked etc" would probably be from the same age group.

If your life doesn't revolve around your car and you just want a mid 10 second beast with some creature comforts and you want to do it on pump or pump/race mix it's much easier to do it with a domestic.

If you have the money and like going another route great or don't want a drag car, but a all around corner carver, autoxer, drag car a EVO would be a better fit.


Are you a enthusiast? or not?

 

you evo guys talk crap like this about the lancers

 

I love the evo, but there are faster cars. Too many evo owners want respect from other owners for the evo, but don't take time to learn about the "competition" or appreciate other cars. The 03-05 cobras, c5 or c6 z06 vettes, and the latest model vipers all offer better performance potential, but at a higher cost. I will be moving up to a viper and plan to twin turbo it in the near future, but I really prefer being the giant killer(EVO) rather than the giant(Viper) for now.

 

Big displacement + Turbo = Big Power. Want a cookie?? Tell us something we don't know. Stop making these lame *** threads.

 

Stock block for stock block, the 4G63T can handle **** load more hp/liter, hp/piston than any existing domestic V8. That being said yes the Japs make more with less. You better hope they don't decide to build a factory TT V8...

BTW - I spent $1600 and made 344 to the wheels which equates to more than 400hp at the crank w/ our drivetrain. How many domestics do you know that could do that with such minimal mods that cost less than the Evo??

 

34 turbo watch out when your stepping into something that you shouldnt, 1600 in mods to just about any of the cars Jasil is speaking about will be well over 400 whp, shoot a Z06 makes that stock, a cobra with a pulley and tune and exhausts makes over 500whp....

Scorke

 

Really? I think you missed the part about the car having to cost less than or equal to an Evo...

 

OK, whats the base price of a used 03 cobra or a 2002 Z06.............. If the car has to cost less than or equal to an evo, thats easily done...

Scorke

 

You are comparing a used car to a brand new Evo.

KBB retail...

03 Cobra 27500 w/ 30K miles. RS is less than that and you get a warranty...
02 Z06 36115 w/ 30K miles.

My 06 was 31200 OTD w/ tax title...

Enough said...

 

Go to svtperformance.com and modularperformance.com and you will find KB'd cobras going for 30K that put down over 600rwhp on pump gas. You don't have a warranty anymore if threw mods on the car anyway. You might get lucky I suppose just like some other people have, but for the most part you're drivetrain warranty is gone.

You're little HP/L comment doesn't matter anyway. Track times win races not HP/L, but it's the design of the motor dumbass inline vs a V configuration. Look at the Ecotec 2.2 has put out of 1000rwhp stupid GM motor, Saab 2.0 over 900rwhp, 2.3L ford over 1000rwhp, it's the strength of the inline design not some special sauce that Honda or Mitsubishi has thrown on the motor.

With that being said the 4G3 is by far my favorite and there is no othe 4 cyl. I care jack about I was just proving a point.

Lasty, Bross03Cobra, put down 780hp/900tq with a ported blower, exhaust, 60lb inj., pumps, filter, tune, MAF, and a 100 shot of juice on pump gas. You can replicate his set up for 3.5K in engine parts!!

Nitrous Pete ran a 9.89@141mph on a stock block, heads, trans, rear, with a stock blower, pulley, exhaust, filter, and 150 shot. Broke7 ran a 10.8@127mph on bolt ons, Venomous 10.01 on bolt ons and juice, HBHerman ran a 10.9 on bolt ons. I could go on and on. The cobra is a better drag platform the EVO is a better all around platform pick your poison.

 

i like how they call out AMS evo...

props 4 sho.