Evolved Member
If i still have my VIII I would trade it for a X anyday. I drove the X and it is awesome, IMO of course.
Evolving Member
At first I really didn't like the X but it has started to grow on me a bit. I will wait a few years to see how they hold up and then maybe buy one to park next to my IX. But I will not trade my IX for a X especially since the IX was a one year only car . Even though the X is not a hard-core true Evo anymore, it would make a good, fast and well handling daily driver. I will have to go test drive one soon.
Evolving Member
I've never seen soo many people get so excited over nothing!
"20 hp by just removing the airfilter, omg!" ....did you not notice that's it's still only 240whp.....not even up to the stock IX wich makes 250-260awhp with absolutely NO mods.
Now if the X stock basline was at 250-260awhp and it jummped 40hp with an intake and boost control, then I would scream and shout with the rest, but it's not.
Mod for mod the IX and X seem to be making the same whp. Who cares how big the jump or gain was, 300 is still 300.
I'm not saying the X isn't a great car, I'm sure it is. All evo's have their plus and minus, just don't make it out to be more than it's not.
"20 hp by just removing the airfilter, omg!" ....did you not notice that's it's still only 240whp.....not even up to the stock IX wich makes 250-260awhp with absolutely NO mods.
Now if the X stock basline was at 250-260awhp and it jummped 40hp with an intake and boost control, then I would scream and shout with the rest, but it's not.
Mod for mod the IX and X seem to be making the same whp. Who cares how big the jump or gain was, 300 is still 300.
I'm not saying the X isn't a great car, I'm sure it is. All evo's have their plus and minus, just don't make it out to be more than it's not.
Evolved Member
Turbotrix is already making over 100 WHP over stock with bolt-ons and no tuning with a smaller turbo. I'd say that's something to be excited about.
Evolving Member
Look at the total hp and mods list. The IX can do just about the same.
The difference is that's it's a 100hp increase from 215 with the X but only 50hp increase from 260 for the IX. IT'S STILL 310AWHP.
The difference is that's it's a 100hp increase from 215 with the X but only 50hp increase from 260 for the IX. IT'S STILL 310AWHP.
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The difference is that's it's a 100hp increase from 215 with the X but only 50hp increase from 260 for the IX. IT'S STILL 310AWHP.
Okay?Originally Posted by meltdown
Look at the total hp and mods list. The IX can do just about the same.The difference is that's it's a 100hp increase from 215 with the X but only 50hp increase from 260 for the IX. IT'S STILL 310AWHP.
Evolved Member
Did you happen to see the multiple tuners state how the X is more responsive to basic mods than any other vehicle? Stop hating please. People were downing the car before it landed discussing how slow it was going to be and how upgrading it was going to be difficult. Let the actual owners of the X enjoy their cars and its capabilities at present. Please?
Evolving Member
It's only more responive because it started out 45hp less than the IX. I'm not trying to hate but instead to just get people to look at all the facts and not just flashy words like "huge gain".
Mainly I take offense to when they says it's better than something else when it's not.
I'm not blaming the X for the fact the Mitsu built it running as rich as it does and as restrictive as it is from the show room floor. But take it for what it is.
If it was my car and I just spent 40k on it and it only made 215whp, I would be like wtf?
It actually brings up another point, which being how much money total will it cost to get the X to where the Ix was. Remember the X started out 5k base price more than the IX and then add some mods just to get to 260whp. How much hp would a IX have with just the 5k difference into it?
Mainly I take offense to when they says it's better than something else when it's not.
I'm not blaming the X for the fact the Mitsu built it running as rich as it does and as restrictive as it is from the show room floor. But take it for what it is.
If it was my car and I just spent 40k on it and it only made 215whp, I would be like wtf?
It actually brings up another point, which being how much money total will it cost to get the X to where the Ix was. Remember the X started out 5k base price more than the IX and then add some mods just to get to 260whp. How much hp would a IX have with just the 5k difference into it?
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"20 hp by just removing the airfilter, omg!" ....did you not notice that's it's still only 240whp.....not even up to the stock IX wich makes 250-260awhp with absolutely NO mods.
Now if the X stock basline was at 250-260awhp and it jummped 40hp with an intake and boost control, then I would scream and shout with the rest, but it's not.
Mod for mod the IX and X seem to be making the same whp. Who cares how big the jump or gain was, 300 is still 300.
I'm not saying the X isn't a great car, I'm sure it is. All evo's have their plus and minus, just don't make it out to be more than it's not.
Have you driven one yet? If not then you don't know what all the buzz is . please stop bad mouthing a car that you have not driven or if you have then maybe its just not your cup of tea.Originally Posted by meltdown
I've never seen soo many people get so excited over nothing!"20 hp by just removing the airfilter, omg!" ....did you not notice that's it's still only 240whp.....not even up to the stock IX wich makes 250-260awhp with absolutely NO mods.
Now if the X stock basline was at 250-260awhp and it jummped 40hp with an intake and boost control, then I would scream and shout with the rest, but it's not.
Mod for mod the IX and X seem to be making the same whp. Who cares how big the jump or gain was, 300 is still 300.
I'm not saying the X isn't a great car, I'm sure it is. All evo's have their plus and minus, just don't make it out to be more than it's not.
Evolving Member
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The difference is that's it's a 100hp increase from 215 with the X but only 50hp increase from 260 for the IX. IT'S STILL 310AWHP.
Dude are you on something?Originally Posted by meltdown
Look at the total hp and mods list. The IX can do just about the same.The difference is that's it's a 100hp increase from 215 with the X but only 50hp increase from 260 for the IX. IT'S STILL 310AWHP.
215 whp on the X baseline
260 whp on the IX baseline
where in hell did you pull these number from?
Go back to the Evo 1 to9 forum and stop starting stupid thread like this.
Evolving Member
I'm not talking about how it drives. I'm sure it drives better. I'm not arguing that fact.
What's the majority of the post been on the X? How it drives or how much power it can make?
What's the majority of the post been on the X? How it drives or how much power it can make?
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Mainly I take offense to when they says it's better than something else when it's not.
I'm not blaming the X for the fact the Mitsu built it running as rich as it does and as restrictive as it is from the show room floor. But take it for what it is.
If it was my car and I just spent 40k on it and it only made 215whp, I would be like wtf?
It actually brings up another point, which being how much money total will it cost to get the X to where the Ix was. Remember the X started out 5k base price more than the IX and then add some mods just to get to 260whp. How much hp would a IX have with just the 5k difference into it?
Why do you care? You sound like a jealous child who just found out his neighbor got the newest GI Joe toy.Originally Posted by meltdown
It's only more responive because it started out 45hp less than the IX. I'm not trying to hate but instead to just get people to look at all the facts and not just flashy words like "huge gain".Mainly I take offense to when they says it's better than something else when it's not.
I'm not blaming the X for the fact the Mitsu built it running as rich as it does and as restrictive as it is from the show room floor. But take it for what it is.
If it was my car and I just spent 40k on it and it only made 215whp, I would be like wtf?
It actually brings up another point, which being how much money total will it cost to get the X to where the Ix was. Remember the X started out 5k base price more than the IX and then add some mods just to get to 260whp. How much hp would a IX have with just the 5k difference into it?
Evolving Member
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215 whp on the X baseline
260 whp on the IX baseline
where in hell did you pull these number from?
Go back to the Evo 1 to9 forum and stop starting stupid thread like this.
Evo X base lineOriginally Posted by thuan
Dude are you on something?215 whp on the X baseline
260 whp on the IX baseline
where in hell did you pull these number from?
Go back to the Evo 1 to9 forum and stop starting stupid thread like this.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=322818
In addition if you search you will find other shops that said that it only did 215whp before they touched anything.
EDIT- Here is a dynojet - https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=323935
my base line:
http://www.evotuners.net/forums/f2/d...100/#post14557
I'm not the only one with 250 - 260 whp on a stock IX.
Newbie
don't know where you get your info, but the stock Eco x is 245hp to the wheel and 258ft/INS