the 6 is not a fastest evo . The TME was a special edition and even that wasn't the fastest one... That was the VI RS Extreme, in the VI line up. It was lighter and more power full then the TME. But those cars was loaded with upgraded parts vs the VI.
As a factory car the TME is doesn't count since it was a hooked up evo just like the FQ series. If you pick that then you need to run against the FQ 400 since that is the most power full edition in the CT9A with factory back up.
So factory vs factory the IX is faster then the VI.

In the racing every evo is evolved so the Vi is not faster then the VIII or the IX in rally or so. We discussed this before and i show prove of that already. If you somebody want to know it just look it up . Will be in this site somewhere.

Just to understand the difference between the VI vs VI TME
THe TME was upgraded with:
-titanium turbo charger
-specially tuned suspension
etc.

more from the VI here:http://www.freewebs.com/lancerevoclu...aleditions.htm


so the bottom line is the TME and the FQ etc are specila edition ,limited numbers. So when you say the VI is the fastest it just simply not true.
When you say the TME then do not compare to the stock IX . It is just not fair at all.

 

First of all, its not a definitive comparison by a longshot just because the cars are painted the same. The video is not even in English, so people are making a lot of assumptions. The IX flat out walked the X in that video on the straights. That's not equal power, even with a 250 pound handicap. The X is new. There have been things for the CT9A chassis in development for almost 7 years. The CZ4A has about 7 months. Better things are to come from the new car, but it needs development time.

This topic of X vs. IX is still pretty hot right now, but X General is a general tech section/catch all, and several examples of these threads don't really belong here. That's why this thread is a giant formation of all of them. Look at 1-9 General. Do you see threads like this over there very much? Not nearly the level it is here. Why do you think that is? That was also the second Advan IX vs Advan X thread, so any others that come into X general will be merged into this one too. Almost everything in the last three pages has been covered several times in the first 70 pages. I'm not censoring or removing this stuff, I'm organizing it in one easy to access place so the rest of the forum can stay on topic. I hope you can understand the need for that. I don't want an off topic pissing match fest, I want the best Evo tech for our members that is possible.

 

"First of all, its not a definitive comparison by a longshot just because the cars are painted the same. The video is not even in English, so people are making a lot of assumptions. The IX flat out walked the X in that video on the straights. That's not equal power, even with a 250 pound handicap. The X is new. There have been things for the CT9A chassis in development for almost 7 years. The CZ4A has about 7 months. Better things are to come from the new car, but it needs development time."

 

An FQ400 is a UK car with an Owens manifold and aftermarket turbo kit, and is not out of the Japanese Mitsubishi factory like that. The FQ cars have exhausts, tuned ECUs, filters, etc.

The 6.5 RS non-TME also had the titanium TD05HRA-16G6-10.5T. The TME RS had this turbo as well, but the TME GSR had a titanium 15G turbo.

Non-modded cars out of Mitusbishi, I still say the 6/6.5 can hold its own against any of the newer stuff, no problem.

Remember this? This is even a (modded) FQ320 car. Since it is a UK spec, it has SAYC unlike our IX. The 6 shown here has at least a cat-back.
http://www.revver.com/video/69174/fi...vo-9-vs-evo-6/

 

"Non-modded cars out of Mitusbishi, I still say the 6/6.5 can hold its own against any of the newer stuff, no problem" here is the problem the TME is a factory MODED car. and they even proudly state it too!
Once in the life time even the intercooler was different or the bumper or the turbo the brakes or the suspension or the ECU MAP.!
SO it is not an non moded VI, period.

yep that was a hooked up VI. But just check out any racing today ,the VII - VIII - IX are all beats the VI . Just the way it is.
The VI are tuned by ralliart the FQ also working together with them./ Also with HKS./
Wont matter how you slice it, the TME and the FQ are not a regular factory car.But BACKED UP with FACTORY warranty. So it is a same class.

In the racing ,where you can find the VI running against the newer versions, like in EU ,the IX usually beats every other version period. That is fact . And i did post it already. YOu can find them too.

example:http://digiads.com.au/car-news/lates...ly_200712.html
And there was a vi too, but didn't made it in the first places at all.
the time did pass by the Vi too. A long time ago.... When the VIII came out.


or just browse around here :

http://rally.connect.ie/results.php?rally=BD08
http://rally.connect.ie/

 

actually not true, since we are discussing the evo 6-6.5(or TME) vs the rest of the line-up. the 6-6.5 were both products of mitsubishi/ralliart-therefore not a modified but part of the mitsu line-up (like the SE vs MR). It was being sold in the UK as a grey market and under the banner of ralliartuk(now www.xtreme-uk.net) and that is where they produced the evo extreme, evo zero fighter. Colt car of UK wanted a piece of the action hence all evo will be coming from them=FQ versions. In the meantime ralliartuk's name was changed to xtreme-uk.net. They still sell evo's but no FQ's only extreme models, etc. the tme was a factory-backed evo.

 

that is why I am looking for any tme or 6 for sale pm me!

 

I was trying to get that through to him, but it wasn't working.

Even the regular 6.5 RS had that big titanium 16G and was a pretty hot car, but I digress. I have never driven one, and am just bench racing.

 

Name one of those categories besides straight line speed that the X doesn't have the 9 beat. There will always be compromises in certain areas to maintain the price point. If they were to give more power and make it lighter then they would have to use more aluminum and titanium which would jack up the price. The new chassis is stiffer but heavier, aiding handling at the cost of straight line speed. The AWD system is stronger and more advanced but is also heavier.

The car has a better interior and better overall build quality. Yet, the price is only like 1k more than last years model. If you want to have your cake and eat it too then buy a bugatti veyron. Otherwise stop *****ing about the damn thing when you don't even own an evo, old OR new. Matter of fact, if you don't own one and obviously don't like them then why the hell are you even here? I believe that there are plenty of BMW forums out there.

 

The Evo was never a drag car. I don't really see why people are so concerned with a few less MPH through the traps.

 

I don't really care about that but I'm not quite sure where you get the idea that a Neon is faster in any shape or form.

I frankly don't understand why you hang around the X General forum so much. You clearly have no interest in an X other than to bash it at every turn and harp on its lack of brand image and its lack of straight line speed, which is somehow ironic considering you drive a low end automatic BMW.

 

Psssh. You're off your rocker if you think some FWD car is going to outlaunch an Evo X and catch it anywhere before it has to shift to fifth.

Provide something of value, not just BS.

 

All RS models for the VII/VIII/IX don't have AYC and only have ACD in Japan, and LSDs front and rear just like our 2005-2006 Evos.

Time attackers in Japan always retain ACD.

 

Do you know what was the big difference? Power to weight ratio. That's why the X lost. It's power to weight ratio was too low.

 

Well I am talking more about US time attackers. I can name quite a few major people that dont prefer the ACD and the lockup characteristics for major racing. AMS being one of them. There are about 4-5 major cars that are 03-04's and run the mechanical diffs. All of which are the fastest evo's in the country mind you.