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Dec 17, 2010, 06:55 PM
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while in the world of limitless money and foolishness why not swap in a ls1 and retain the awd lol that at least would be something people would buy when ur done with it...
Dec 17, 2010, 07:37 PM
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Dec 18, 2010, 01:06 AM
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Go ahead and do this to your Evo and once you are done post up your results so we can all have a good 10 minute laugh at the amount of money you spent to get it done. My guess is that you will end up spending 3x the amount of money with your K20/Evo frankenstein build to make the same amount of power that a built 4B11T will make.
Dec 18, 2010, 01:29 AM
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I agreed with almost everything you said but this. Every dynapack I've ever seen reads sky high. TurboXS old dynapack read a stock Evo VIII at 254whp. You remove the wheels, they technically show less driveline loss.
Also, mentioning apples to apples, a front wheel drivetrain will draw nowhere near out of the engine what an AWD drivetrain when the rubber meets the road, but I'm sure you know that already.
On a complete side note, the 4B11 head will outflow the 4G63 head in it's sleep, but the rest of the engine needs upgrading for serious power when compared to a 4G63.
Also, mentioning apples to apples, a front wheel drivetrain will draw nowhere near out of the engine what an AWD drivetrain when the rubber meets the road, but I'm sure you know that already.
On a complete side note, the 4B11 head will outflow the 4G63 head in it's sleep, but the rest of the engine needs upgrading for serious power when compared to a 4G63.
the dyno at Synapse Motorsport does read very low. a stock S2000 was making about 170whp...im pretty sure that was the #. it was low reguardless. they've had many cars on it with the same results. but, to be honest a dyno is a tuning tool anyway. not that you dont know that. just to give you an idea that Civic that made 740whp @ 32lbs went 10.3 at 142 on 26 lbs which was about 550whp.
so its making a bit of power.Dyno Vid, Unfortunately the 740WHP pull is not on the vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL9BM...eature=related
Track Vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP0feHcQXRQ
Dec 18, 2010, 08:48 AM
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i kno it sounds kinda strainge but i have alot of honda hoes as buddie and they all brag about the k20 so it go me looking at its specs and the engine dynos with 240hp at 8k+ revs where the 4b11 is at like 155hp then with the turbo pushing 21 lbs of boost the 4b11 is at 291. would i be able to use that same amount of boost on the k20 and would there be alot more power?
idk im a mistubishi fanboy but if i can get more power out of the k20 the the 4b11 id go for it.
any comments?
idk im a mistubishi fanboy but if i can get more power out of the k20 the the 4b11 id go for it.any comments?
if you want honda power, then go back to the honda.
Dec 18, 2010, 02:15 PM
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sounds like you want to spend a lot of money just to beat another evo in a race. sounds pretty retarded if you ask me.... to top that off, you will always come across someone that'll make you say "damn that ****s fast".
if you want to do a custom build by putting watever motor in watever car you desire, and you want to do this maybe because it hasn't been done before, Great!! I say go for it.
other wise, scrap your idea lol
why don't you use your imagination, and perhaps put your own style and thought into making your car look and drive different then other evo's for example, and im sure if you making it unique enough, people will say "oh ****, that looks/rides sick" without having to do a complete motor drop (k20 or not).
that's just the way i see it
if you want to do a custom build by putting watever motor in watever car you desire, and you want to do this maybe because it hasn't been done before, Great!! I say go for it.
other wise, scrap your idea lol
why don't you use your imagination, and perhaps put your own style and thought into making your car look and drive different then other evo's for example, and im sure if you making it unique enough, people will say "oh ****, that looks/rides sick" without having to do a complete motor drop (k20 or not).
that's just the way i see it
Dec 18, 2010, 02:35 PM
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ok so seeings as obv a k20 wouldnt work my options are what an ls1 to retain the 4wd right? how much boost can i run on it and what about the 4b12t with a different intake manifold that way i wont have the ****ty plastic on like srt-4s have. its compression is also higher at 10.5:1 so would that be a better suited motor?
p.s. why does everyone here assume im doing this to sell it? ive wanted an evo since i was like 8. shes not going ANYWHERE in fact im getting a 2nd one to mess around with soon
p.s. why does everyone here assume im doing this to sell it? ive wanted an evo since i was like 8. shes not going ANYWHERE in fact im getting a 2nd one to mess around with soon
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Dec 20, 2010, 05:47 AM
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To the OP:
You're obviously missing the philosophy behind switching engines in cars such as an RX-7 etc like you mentioned earlier. Like everyone else said the drivetrains are already either FWD or RWD. Reliability of the motor is often a factor, and in each case they want to make more power safely. There's really no point in doing what you think is unique because the power capability of the Evo motor is very good therefore dumping all that money to make "more power" would really be inefficient in every sense... this is also the reason why you are receiving so much flak for your "innovative" idea. It's true though, it's your $ and car so you can do whatever you want. It doesn't mean that people can't/won't hate on you for wasting both.
You're obviously missing the philosophy behind switching engines in cars such as an RX-7 etc like you mentioned earlier. Like everyone else said the drivetrains are already either FWD or RWD. Reliability of the motor is often a factor, and in each case they want to make more power safely. There's really no point in doing what you think is unique because the power capability of the Evo motor is very good therefore dumping all that money to make "more power" would really be inefficient in every sense... this is also the reason why you are receiving so much flak for your "innovative" idea. It's true though, it's your $ and car so you can do whatever you want. It doesn't mean that people can't/won't hate on you for wasting both.