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Old Mar 25, 2011 | 07:45 PM
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Old Mar 25, 2011 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by white_evo27
glad im not the only one who thinks its bull**** im dealing with the SAME EXACT PROBLEM... and now im being banned because UPS doesnt want to pay the "insurance" money that came out of MY POCKET for the turbo... for 3 months ive fought UPS and have the BBB involved, but that doesnt matter to any of the moderators on this site... and i get bashed because i dont reply to PM's??? hmm maybe its because IM NOT HOME!!! im TDY with the military and i get 4 pms from a moderator about how im being banned because i havent replied to any pms...

been on this site for years and never had a problem and have sold other items with no problem and have an excellent ebay score, so im legit, and im talked down on making it look like im a scammer making a quick buck... im not paying the buyer AGAIN out of my pocket for the replacement parts! im not a business, UPS can pay for it, thats why they have "INSURANCE"...

i have all my photos of the turbo, receipts, documents, phone call history, etc...

i also didnt box the turbo, UPS did, i brought it to a customer service center and had them package it... and they tried to pull the "insufficient packaging" bull**** on me because they dont want to pay the insurance money they owe!

the buyer also CONSTANTLY threatened/harassed me (which i believe is an offense last time i checked, whether it be internet,phone,etc) to the point where i had to get my cell phone provider to block his number, since i received 100txts a day/night, even at 3am! like wtf?

ive done ALL that i can and now am pursuing a law suit for this person, but that doesnt seem to matter... if i get banned because of this idc anymore, its just a forum... and id rather not be on it than have moderators talk **** to me through PMs and try to talk to me as "childish theif"
When you decide to sell something, and you take money for it, it's your responsibility to make sure the buyer gets what they paid for. That means from the time you receive payment until the time it's opened by them in the condition they paid for it, you own it. The customer didn't get what he paid for. It's certainly not your fault that UPS messed it up. It is however your responsibility to refund the buyer immediately, or negotiate with them to arrange an agreement that is acceptable to both you and the buyer. Why is this difficult to understand? You say you don't want to come out of pocket while the insurance process is handled, what about the buyer?

He paid you for a working part. He didn't get the working part. You took payment for that working part and didn't deliver it, and won't give his money back. ALL accountability for the item is on the seller once the buyer makes payment. Of course all of this is just my opinion, but having gone through 2 ebay transactions where UPS broke the items I shipped, I can tell you I refunded the money for both items immediately and took my issue up with UPS. I did it because that's the right thing to do.
Old Mar 25, 2011 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Noize
Hey, I am very glad you started this thread so we can share your information to prevent you from ripping other people off!

FWIW, this user was caught in multiple lies, including using another's paypal account and shipped this turbo and said it was in good shape to a site member for good turbo price:



His email address is : ch1215g@gmail.com
The paypal address he used: mterrone@optonline.net
Name on paypal account: Mary Terrone

His name is Chris and states he lives on XXXX (number withheld) Fairfield Avenue Kenilworth NJ, 07033

Next, he told lie, after lie, after lie in PM. "I didn't ship it that way!", "Someone must've swapped it in shipping", then "that paypal account is closed", then "I am only willing to give a partial refund", "I already sold ALL my parts, so thanks anyway."

Well guess what? I verified the account was still open, and had another site member contact me to thank me because he was about to give money to ch1215g.

You're drowning in your lies, and you are now marked a scammer on this site.
I am not in anyway trying to stir up more drama, but chi25g was selling a mass supply of iphones brand new a couple weeks ago and it seemed a little sketchy, any word on any fradulant activity there?
Old Mar 26, 2011 | 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 42revoincali
I am not in anyway trying to stir up more drama, but chi25g was selling a mass supply of iphones brand new a couple weeks ago and it seemed a little sketchy, any word on any fradulant activity there?
That was stopped right away, and he's no longer selling on this site. Thanks.
Old Mar 26, 2011 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Noize


how is it possible for a turbo to get damaged like that during shipping? was it packed with rocks? all the shipper had to do was put some tape on on inlet and outlet and done. thats why ups wont cover it, it was obviously shipped that way.
Old Mar 30, 2011 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by gerzzzzz
No need to be an a$$hole!!

It makes sense to ask my money back if you wont respond to me, since I havent got anything yet.

I told you to post it as soon as possible as I need it really quickly, you said yes you can do it, I paid 27 Feb, you sent it 2 March.

Then it got stuck along the way, I have emailed and called Australia Post.
They said there's nothing they can do, and ask me to call USPS.

I have emailed and called USPS too.
They said the latest information is the item is in NJ dispatch on March 3rd. And no further information shown.

In order to investigate it, I need you (sender) to call them and provide your data and ask them to investigate where my item is.

I asked you to contact them and havent got any respond, so I put paypal claim to make you aware that I need your 3 minutes to just call USPS and give your information as the sender for them to proceed the investigation. WHO ARE YOU? Even a president would have 3 minutes free in a day.

I just need you to be cooperative here, I paid your clutch on time, I hope to get it on time. Then it is your responsibility to call them around and ask where is the item and when will I get it.

Thanks,
Gerald.


6 1/2 weeks later and USPS finally delivers!!! Too bad the flywheels missing. Well, claims going thru today once i get the info back from you as far as weight, pictures and such..
Old Mar 30, 2011 | 11:49 AM
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Minus this little incident, right? OH, well he sold something to someone else and it worked out, must be legit.



Originally Posted by white_evo27
hmmm seems like he was legit? but mods wont allow him to sell anyway

and for the record, i paid out of pocket twice for the item i sold already, totaling up to $140

im not putting out another $500 out of my pocket, the damage on the cover looks like it was hit with a hammer, and there is no way the box was delivered in that condition... it looked like a piece of swiss cheese... not possible, i would have had the money from UPS already and they wouldnt be giving me such a hard time on the claim if they saw the package like that.

Also, You're not putting anything out of pocket. You're carrying through with delivering something which you sold. You assume liability and risk as a seller to get someone what they've paid for. A broken setup was received, you wouldn't take a return and here we are now. What is it, four and a half months later? Still trying to find some kind of resolution for someone that paid for something and has only received part of it.

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Old Mar 30, 2011 | 12:03 PM
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While I'm glad you've introduced your personal account of his character after having met him a time or two, it really doesn't matter. Everything we see in making decisions is how people conduct themselves here and how they handle issues. I didn't handle the situation, but what would be the point of witholding something like that? There really isn't one, so I'd have a hard time believing something like that would magically appear after the fact. While convenient, it's also suspect.
Old Mar 30, 2011 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 42revoincali
I am not in anyway trying to stir up more drama, but chi25g was selling a mass supply of iphones brand new a couple weeks ago and it seemed a little sketchy, any word on any fradulant activity there?
Holy hell thats horrible! that's a damn nightmare right there. It sucks to see fellow evo owners ripping each other off, for what?? 400 500$?? that's just sad.

Karma will catch up to them, and they will get what they deserve.
Old Mar 30, 2011 | 10:17 PM
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Like i stated before, i bought an iPhone from ch1215g, he had no intentions on scamming anyone with the iPhones. I bought one from him and couldn't be any happier with it! Paid $600 for it, Verizon 32GB Model! I got the picture of the compressor wheel from ch1215g, I will upload it now to this post hold on.

Old Mar 30, 2011 | 11:30 PM
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Wow that pic looks really familiar

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sa...haft-play.html
Old Mar 30, 2011 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by xBLK21LEVO9x
Like i stated before, i bought an iPhone from ch1215g, he had no intentions on scamming anyone with the iPhones. I bought one from him and couldn't be any happier with it! Paid $600 for it, Verizon 32GB Model! I got the picture of the compressor wheel from ch1215g, I will upload it now to this post hold on.

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Excellent, the EXIF data is still in tact for that image.


What's that mean?

That I can tell quite a bit from this picture.

First, lets take a look at shipping:

Date payment sent: Feb 2, 2011
Date received in Grenada: Mar 21, 2011

Now, the date the picture was taken:
Date Mar 21, 2011 1:35:29 PM




So this picture was taken the exact same day that the shipment was received in grenada. . . This proves something, but it's not that the turbo wasn't damaged prior to shipping.

Date Mar 21, 2011 1:35:29 PM
Width 640
Height 478
File Size 60667
Camera Apple
Model iPhone 4
ISO 80
Exposure 1/96 sec
Aperture 2.8
Focal Length 4mm
Flash Used true
I've omitted the rest of the data that's in there as there's geodata as well.
Old Mar 30, 2011 | 11:55 PM
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i find it odd that ch12 gets called out as a scammer, then a day later Xblk21 makes an account and goes from 0 to 60 posts within days. and now hes defending ch12....very interesting
Old Mar 31, 2011 | 12:00 AM
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I find it odd that your running your mouth. Mind your own business.

I'm not defending him, i'm simply stating what i saw with the purchase that i made with him. Yes, i'll admit i'm helping him in his situation. Whatever you guys want to think.

How are you so sure the picture was taken on March 21st, cause i'm pretty sure thats the DATE he sent the picture to me.
Old Mar 31, 2011 | 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by xBLK21LEVO9x
I find it odd that your running your mouth. Mind your own business.
Be civil or don't post. For someone who has no dog in this fight, your emotions are showing otherwise.

Originally Posted by xBLK21LEVO9x
How are you so sure the picture was taken on March 21st, cause i'm pretty sure thats the DATE he sent the picture to me.
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Originally Posted by xBLK21LEVO9x
I'll call him right now and see if he has the picture and to send it to me so i can post it up! Give me a couple of minutes.
So which is it?

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