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Collins is on the left. Suggs is hitting his shoulder pad
was a bad call in the end of the game. no need to call that un less u r 100% positive that it is what u thing and this shows that the titans were given a free 1st and 10 plus the 15 yards instead of having to kick it away
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pic's don't lie
Collins is on the left. Suggs is hitting his shoulder pad
was a bad call in the end of the game. no need to call that un less u r 100% positive that it is what u thing and this shows that the titans were given a free 1st and 10 plus the 15 yards instead of having to kick it away
Collins is on the left. Suggs is hitting his shoulder pad
was a bad call in the end of the game. no need to call that un less u r 100% positive that it is what u thing and this shows that the titans were given a free 1st and 10 plus the 15 yards instead of having to kick it away
you are not allowed under any circumstances to touch a qbs head/helmet. in that picture his hand is resting on both his shouldpad and the side of his helmet. do i think its a little ticky tacky, absolutly. what you cant see from this picture or angle from a still, is the motion in which his arm comes down. if you want to base that the way his body is traveling at the time, to where his hand has now landed, that we can reasonably assume his hand struck the side of collins helmet at some point in the arm motion. so the call is the right call. deal with it.
we were in fact given a set of new downs and 15 yards. but you seem to forget that we would not have been forced to kick the ball away if not for this penalty. it was 3rd down, not 4th. 3rd and 10 with a false start gives us 3rd and 15. not 4th and 15. you can not decline a false start penalty. so the ravens would have still had to stop us on 3rd down there anywayz. which they had plenty of oppurtunity to do so over the course of 80 yards...
edit: they also could have called illegal hands to the face which would have wiped out both penalties and gave us the same 3rd and 10....
not to mention, that penalty didnt win us the game. it was the savior of baltimore, your MLB ray "murderer" lewis that bit HARD on the pump fake from kerry collins, attempted to jump the route alge was running and in doing so left alge more or less wide open in the MIDDLE of the endzone to put the stake in ur hearts...
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please understand the rules of the game before u come at me with ur worthless retort.
you are not allowed under any circumstances to touch a qbs head/helmet. in that picture his hand is resting on both his shouldpad and the side of his helmet. do i think its a little ticky tacky, absolutly. what you cant see from this picture or angle from a still, is the motion in which his arm comes down. if you want to base that the way his body is traveling at the time, to where his hand has now landed, that we can reasonably assume his hand struck the side of collins helmet at some point in the arm motion. so the call is the right call. deal with it.
we were in fact given a set of new downs and 15 yards. but you seem to forget that we would not have been forced to kick the ball away if not for this penalty. it was 3rd down, not 4th. 3rd and 10 with a false start gives us 3rd and 15. not 4th and 15. you can not decline a false start penalty. so the ravens would have still had to stop us on 3rd down there anywayz. which they had plenty of oppurtunity to do so over the course of 80 yards...
edit: they also could have called illegal hands to the face which would have wiped out both penalties and gave us the same 3rd and 10....
not to mention, that penalty didnt win us the game. it was the savior of baltimore, your MLB ray "murderer" lewis that bit HARD on the pump fake from kerry collins, attempted to jump the route alge was running and in doing so left alge more or less wide open in the MIDDLE of the endzone to put the stake in ur hearts...
you are not allowed under any circumstances to touch a qbs head/helmet. in that picture his hand is resting on both his shouldpad and the side of his helmet. do i think its a little ticky tacky, absolutly. what you cant see from this picture or angle from a still, is the motion in which his arm comes down. if you want to base that the way his body is traveling at the time, to where his hand has now landed, that we can reasonably assume his hand struck the side of collins helmet at some point in the arm motion. so the call is the right call. deal with it.
we were in fact given a set of new downs and 15 yards. but you seem to forget that we would not have been forced to kick the ball away if not for this penalty. it was 3rd down, not 4th. 3rd and 10 with a false start gives us 3rd and 15. not 4th and 15. you can not decline a false start penalty. so the ravens would have still had to stop us on 3rd down there anywayz. which they had plenty of oppurtunity to do so over the course of 80 yards...
edit: they also could have called illegal hands to the face which would have wiped out both penalties and gave us the same 3rd and 10....
not to mention, that penalty didnt win us the game. it was the savior of baltimore, your MLB ray "murderer" lewis that bit HARD on the pump fake from kerry collins, attempted to jump the route alge was running and in doing so left alge more or less wide open in the MIDDLE of the endzone to put the stake in ur hearts...
its a passing down right.... damn... did we even run the ball on that final drive??
1-10-TEN 20 (6:07) 5-K.Collins pass incomplete deep right to 19-J.McCareins (21-C.McAlister).
2-10-TEN 20 (6:01) 5-K.Collins pass incomplete short left to 81-B.Jones (41-F.Walker).
3-10-TEN 20 (5:57) (Shotgun) 5-K.Collins pass incomplete deep right to 19-J.McCareins. PENALTY on BAL-55-T.Suggs, Roughing the Passer, 15 yards, enforced at TEN 20 - No Play. Penalty on TEN-71-M.Roos, False Start, superseded.
1-10-TEN 35 (5:50) 5-K.Collins pass to 80-B.Scaife to TEN 44 for 9 yards (41-F.Walker).
2-1-TEN 44 (4:52) 28-C.Johnson right tackle to TEN 42 for -2 yards (55-T.Suggs).
3-3-TEN 42 (4:24) 5-K.Collins pass short middle to 17-Ch.Davis to BAL 48 for 10 yards (21-C.McAlister).
1-10-BAL 48 (3:52) 5-K.Collins pass to 83-A.Crumpler to BAL 44 for 4 yards (57-B.Scott, 36-J.Leonhard).
2-6-BAL 44 (3:25) 5-K.Collins pass short left to 80-B.Scaife to BAL 31 for 13 yards (41-F.Walker).
1-10-BAL 31 (2:42) 5-K.Collins pass incomplete short left to 81-B.Jones (41-F.Walker).
2-10-BAL 31 (2:34) 5-K.Collins pass incomplete short right to 83-A.Crumpler. PENALTY on BAL, Defensive 12 On-field, 5 yards, enforced at BAL 31 - No Play.
2-5-BAL 26 (2:29) 5-K.Collins pass incomplete deep right to 81-B.Jones (41-F.Walker).
3-5-BAL 26 (2:24) (Shotgun) 5-K.Collins pass short middle to 80-B.Scaife to BAL 11 for 15 yards (25-E.Oglesby).
Two-Minute Warning
1-10-BAL 11 (2:00) 5-K.Collins pass short middle to 83-A.Crumpler for 11 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
edit...1 run for -2 yards.... i dont think i see ur point that 3rd and 15 would have been a passing down??
1-10-TEN 20 (6:07) 5-K.Collins pass incomplete deep right to 19-J.McCareins (21-C.McAlister).
2-10-TEN 20 (6:01) 5-K.Collins pass incomplete short left to 81-B.Jones (41-F.Walker).
3-10-TEN 20 (5:57) (Shotgun) 5-K.Collins pass incomplete deep right to 19-J.McCareins. PENALTY on BAL-55-T.Suggs, Roughing the Passer, 15 yards, enforced at TEN 20 - No Play. Penalty on TEN-71-M.Roos, False Start, superseded.
1-10-TEN 35 (5:50) 5-K.Collins pass to 80-B.Scaife to TEN 44 for 9 yards (41-F.Walker).
2-1-TEN 44 (4:52) 28-C.Johnson right tackle to TEN 42 for -2 yards (55-T.Suggs).
3-3-TEN 42 (4:24) 5-K.Collins pass short middle to 17-Ch.Davis to BAL 48 for 10 yards (21-C.McAlister).
1-10-BAL 48 (3:52) 5-K.Collins pass to 83-A.Crumpler to BAL 44 for 4 yards (57-B.Scott, 36-J.Leonhard).
2-6-BAL 44 (3:25) 5-K.Collins pass short left to 80-B.Scaife to BAL 31 for 13 yards (41-F.Walker).
1-10-BAL 31 (2:42) 5-K.Collins pass incomplete short left to 81-B.Jones (41-F.Walker).
2-10-BAL 31 (2:34) 5-K.Collins pass incomplete short right to 83-A.Crumpler. PENALTY on BAL, Defensive 12 On-field, 5 yards, enforced at BAL 31 - No Play.
2-5-BAL 26 (2:29) 5-K.Collins pass incomplete deep right to 81-B.Jones (41-F.Walker).
3-5-BAL 26 (2:24) (Shotgun) 5-K.Collins pass short middle to 80-B.Scaife to BAL 11 for 15 yards (25-E.Oglesby).
Two-Minute Warning
1-10-BAL 11 (2:00) 5-K.Collins pass short middle to 83-A.Crumpler for 11 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
edit...1 run for -2 yards.... i dont think i see ur point that 3rd and 15 would have been a passing down??
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its a passing down right.... damn... did we even run the ball on that final drive??
1-10-TEN 20 (6:07) 5-K.Collins pass incomplete deep right to 19-J.McCareins (21-C.McAlister).
2-10-TEN 20 (6:01) 5-K.Collins pass incomplete short left to 81-B.Jones (41-F.Walker).
3-10-TEN 20 (5:57) (Shotgun) 5-K.Collins pass incomplete deep right to 19-J.McCareins. PENALTY on BAL-55-T.Suggs, Roughing the Passer, 15 yards, enforced at TEN 20 - No Play. Penalty on TEN-71-M.Roos, False Start, superseded.
1-10-TEN 35 (5:50) 5-K.Collins pass to 80-B.Scaife to TEN 44 for 9 yards (41-F.Walker).
2-1-TEN 44 (4:52) 28-C.Johnson right tackle to TEN 42 for -2 yards (55-T.Suggs).
3-3-TEN 42 (4:24) 5-K.Collins pass short middle to 17-Ch.Davis to BAL 48 for 10 yards (21-C.McAlister).
1-10-BAL 48 (3:52) 5-K.Collins pass to 83-A.Crumpler to BAL 44 for 4 yards (57-B.Scott, 36-J.Leonhard).
2-6-BAL 44 (3:25) 5-K.Collins pass short left to 80-B.Scaife to BAL 31 for 13 yards (41-F.Walker).
1-10-BAL 31 (2:42) 5-K.Collins pass incomplete short left to 81-B.Jones (41-F.Walker).
2-10-BAL 31 (2:34) 5-K.Collins pass incomplete short right to 83-A.Crumpler. PENALTY on BAL, Defensive 12 On-field, 5 yards, enforced at BAL 31 - No Play.
2-5-BAL 26 (2:29) 5-K.Collins pass incomplete deep right to 81-B.Jones (41-F.Walker).
3-5-BAL 26 (2:24) (Shotgun) 5-K.Collins pass short middle to 80-B.Scaife to BAL 11 for 15 yards (25-E.Oglesby).
Two-Minute Warning
1-10-BAL 11 (2:00) 5-K.Collins pass short middle to 83-A.Crumpler for 11 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
edit...1 run for -2 yards.... i dont think i see ur point that 3rd and 15 would have been a passing down??
1-10-TEN 20 (6:07) 5-K.Collins pass incomplete deep right to 19-J.McCareins (21-C.McAlister).
2-10-TEN 20 (6:01) 5-K.Collins pass incomplete short left to 81-B.Jones (41-F.Walker).
3-10-TEN 20 (5:57) (Shotgun) 5-K.Collins pass incomplete deep right to 19-J.McCareins. PENALTY on BAL-55-T.Suggs, Roughing the Passer, 15 yards, enforced at TEN 20 - No Play. Penalty on TEN-71-M.Roos, False Start, superseded.
1-10-TEN 35 (5:50) 5-K.Collins pass to 80-B.Scaife to TEN 44 for 9 yards (41-F.Walker).
2-1-TEN 44 (4:52) 28-C.Johnson right tackle to TEN 42 for -2 yards (55-T.Suggs).
3-3-TEN 42 (4:24) 5-K.Collins pass short middle to 17-Ch.Davis to BAL 48 for 10 yards (21-C.McAlister).
1-10-BAL 48 (3:52) 5-K.Collins pass to 83-A.Crumpler to BAL 44 for 4 yards (57-B.Scott, 36-J.Leonhard).
2-6-BAL 44 (3:25) 5-K.Collins pass short left to 80-B.Scaife to BAL 31 for 13 yards (41-F.Walker).
1-10-BAL 31 (2:42) 5-K.Collins pass incomplete short left to 81-B.Jones (41-F.Walker).
2-10-BAL 31 (2:34) 5-K.Collins pass incomplete short right to 83-A.Crumpler. PENALTY on BAL, Defensive 12 On-field, 5 yards, enforced at BAL 31 - No Play.
2-5-BAL 26 (2:29) 5-K.Collins pass incomplete deep right to 81-B.Jones (41-F.Walker).
3-5-BAL 26 (2:24) (Shotgun) 5-K.Collins pass short middle to 80-B.Scaife to BAL 11 for 15 yards (25-E.Oglesby).
Two-Minute Warning
1-10-BAL 11 (2:00) 5-K.Collins pass short middle to 83-A.Crumpler for 11 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
edit...1 run for -2 yards.... i dont think i see ur point that 3rd and 15 would have been a passing down??
they had 1. but the point being is that 3rd and 15 isnt hard to get... fish would have went for it on 4th. so u had 2 downs to get 15 yards... would u like me to go find out how many 2 down = +15 they had?
trust me over the past 2 years you cant win with this guy.
let me say this. we lost period. no point in b**ching about it.
but last year i told you vince young was a POS and he wouldnt take you anywhere. i was right. hes crazy, he sucks, and he is not ur teams future. ur lucky to have a veteran like collins to keep ur season moving.
good luck, and i hope to see u in the playoffs.
ps.... i was in the last row too, section 501 last row, seat 9 and 10. you saw the titans fans almost get kicked out by like 10 cops in ur section lol.
let me say this. we lost period. no point in b**ching about it.
but last year i told you vince young was a POS and he wouldnt take you anywhere. i was right. hes crazy, he sucks, and he is not ur teams future. ur lucky to have a veteran like collins to keep ur season moving.
good luck, and i hope to see u in the playoffs.
ps.... i was in the last row too, section 501 last row, seat 9 and 10. you saw the titans fans almost get kicked out by like 10 cops in ur section lol.
Are you for real??? Lucky to have Collins...Kerry Collins. That would be the craziest thing I ever heard someone say. Just so your aware, Collins is not any good. Lucky !!! HA. I mean he's gotten the job done...But his numbers...
I think Vince Young will be OK in the long run and I also think the Titan look pretty...pretty good if that happens.
I think Vince Young will be OK in the long run and I also think the Titan look pretty...pretty good if that happens.
trust me over the past 2 years you cant win with this guy.
let me say this. we lost period. no point in b**ching about it.
but last year i told you vince young was a POS and he wouldnt take you anywhere. i was right. hes crazy, he sucks, and he is not ur teams future. ur lucky to have a veteran like collins to keep ur season moving.
good luck, and i hope to see u in the playoffs.
ps.... i was in the last row too, section 501 last row, seat 9 and 10. you saw the titans fans almost get kicked out by like 10 cops in ur section lol.
let me say this. we lost period. no point in b**ching about it.
but last year i told you vince young was a POS and he wouldnt take you anywhere. i was right. hes crazy, he sucks, and he is not ur teams future. ur lucky to have a veteran like collins to keep ur season moving.
good luck, and i hope to see u in the playoffs.
ps.... i was in the last row too, section 501 last row, seat 9 and 10. you saw the titans fans almost get kicked out by like 10 cops in ur section lol.
eh, ya know, vince will be vince. hes got the talent, arm, everything u want... maybe some slight mental issues. maybe hell come back stronger, maybe he wont. this season reeks of 1999 when steve got hurt and neil had to fill in for almost half a season.
in all honesty, with our defense, it doesnt matter who the damn QB is, kerry, chris, vince, boller, farve etc etc... the defense will take us as far as we can go 99% of the time this season, and our running game has a shot of speed with cj which just gives us an extra weapon... (he was one step away from breaking about 2 80 yard gallops against the ravens)
you guys are gonna need to win the division to make the playoffs... good luck...and if u do make it, enjoy the flight or drive down to tennessee... like bulluck said... you guys stole our superbowl in 2000...paybacks a *****
Are you for real??? Lucky to have Collins...Kerry Collins. That would be the craziest thing I ever heard someone say. Just so your aware, Collins is not any good. Lucky !!! HA. I mean he's gotten the job done...But his numbers...
I think Vince Young will be OK in the long run and I also think the Titan look pretty...pretty good if that happens.
I think Vince Young will be OK in the long run and I also think the Titan look pretty...pretty good if that happens.
Vick part two stinks. He'd be better off killing some pitbulls now to clear up cap space.
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"Maybe some slight mental issues".....haahaahaaaaaa!! That's some funny **** there........
You sound like those stupid, toothless Steeler "fans" who always revert to talking about 52. Ray "Murderer" Lewis was acquitted(sp) of all charges. If you wanna blame him for his poor choice of friends, OK. But Vince "Wonderlic" Young is a mental midget!! He's got serious mental issues!! Fisher never wanted to draft him because EVERYONE knew he was an idiot, but the **** owner wanted to stick it to the town of Houston!!
Hey Evolved, are you willing to bet that, barring an injury, Vince Young doesn't touch the field the rest of the year, of ever? Or do the **** keep him around because of his "sheer talent"?
You sound like those stupid, toothless Steeler "fans" who always revert to talking about 52. Ray "Murderer" Lewis was acquitted(sp) of all charges. If you wanna blame him for his poor choice of friends, OK. But Vince "Wonderlic" Young is a mental midget!! He's got serious mental issues!! Fisher never wanted to draft him because EVERYONE knew he was an idiot, but the **** owner wanted to stick it to the town of Houston!!
Hey Evolved, are you willing to bet that, barring an injury, Vince Young doesn't touch the field the rest of the year, of ever? Or do the **** keep him around because of his "sheer talent"?
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