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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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Dyno chart on page one I'll scan the chart this week to get a clearer picture.
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 05:21 PM
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Also just a funny thing we found.... the Greddy Turbo Timer will fit underneath the gauges (Behind the change thing) in a Evo IX MR......... however it will NOT fit in that spot in the Evo IX MR SE. Just thought that was weird lol
That's where they put the extra torque for the SE. Trade-off I guess...
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
We are not talking about rally cars - those are DESIGNED to be that way specifically to meet the rules. My comment was not a sweeping generalization for every car - the Evos in question here are NOT designed to do that, and it is not a good sign for a standard-modded Evo on pump gas and 22psi to be making 40-50 more peak WTQ than peak WHP - that is a bad sign and is not good for the car if it's truly happening.
Why is that a bad thing my old GTI 1.8T was making 230whp and 280wtq and that was not bad at all it was fine to have more tq. than hp. Same with Srt-4 they are making mor tq. than hp and running on a turbo.

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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 05:46 PM
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Warrtalon is not saying its bad for CARS to make more torque, he is saying its bad for EVOS to make more torque, due the design and turbo setup on the car. geez!

And no im not agreeing with him , just saying that is what he is implying.
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DSM GSR04
Warrtalon is not saying its bad for CARS to make more torque, he is saying its bad for EVOS to make more torque, due the design and turbo setup on the car. geez!

And no im not agreeing with him , just saying that is what he is implying.

There are plenty of Evos making more tq than hp I still don't no why it's a bad thing.
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by EvoAngel429625
The SE are the filler Evo since there was no 2007 Evo......

Also just a funny thing we found.... the Greddy Turbo Timer will fit underneath the gauges (Behind the change thing) in a Evo IX MR......... however it will NOT fit in that spot in the Evo IX MR SE. Just thought that was weird lol
Have you tested this on any other SE's besides yours?
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 08:09 AM
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just got back from pri show. damn this thread gor big! LOL
its always nice to make more torque but on a stock turbo and motor to make 380 tq at 21 psi is unlikely.
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 10:22 AM
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Have you tested this on any other SE's besides yours?
yes...its the same on my friends black mr se.
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 10:26 AM
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EvoJoeIX - the 2007 IX sold overseas had some turbo improvements with better spool. In the US, there Mitsu never sold a 2007 model on paper because of side impact laws (no side airbags). So Mitsu labelled all USDM Evo IX's 2006 models. However, some of these 2006 models were built during the 2007 model year. I am speculating that all the IX's built during the 2007 model year (which starts in Aug 2006) are in fact SE models and probably have the same turbo improvements but were unadvertised as being improved. That would explain why AMS finds the SE's to be quicker.
i read the exact same thing about the se's about why they were labeled 2006 and not 2007. On a different note....your cx7 sounds pretty bad a$$
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisevo8
i read the exact same thing about the se's about why they were labeled 2006 and not 2007. On a different note....your cx7 sounds pretty bad a$$
OT but thanks man! The 2.3L DISI turbo is a great motor.
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 12:07 PM
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Here I'll end this now...

If you look at your VIN number on your Evo and if the 10th digit is a 6 then you have a 2006 evo reguardless of the fact that it may have been made in 2007! My car was built in 2004 but the 10th digit on my VIN is a 5, which means... ITS A 2005!
thank you

people arent understanding what im saying...
yes maybe they made them in 07, BUT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A 2007 EVO...
i dont care about over sea cars since most likely none of you are driving one. and id like to see some proof on the turbo refinements ect. that im hearing about FOR THE US MODELS only. im not saying its not true, but i never heard about it until now
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 12:26 PM
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I agree there is no 2007 USDM Evo. What I am saying is that Mitsu may incorporated the overseas 2007 improvements into the USDM Evo's built in the 2007 model year. Therefore there may be differences between our 2006 Evos. Most notably the SE and non-SE cars.
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 12:30 PM
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I have a perfect Evo IX baseline test already, all we need is a bone stock Evo IX SE and we can figure this Hardy Boys mystery out.
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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lol ^^
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DSM GSR04
Warrtalon is not saying its bad for CARS to make more torque, he is saying its bad for EVOS to make more torque, due the design and turbo setup on the car. geez!

And no im not agreeing with him , just saying that is what he is implying.
Originally Posted by Show286
There are plenty of Evos making more tq than hp I still don't no why it's a bad thing.
Finally! Somebody got what Warrtalon was saying. EVOS in particular, on a STOCK TURBO, should not make that much of a difference in whp and wtq. This *does not* include:

* Other Cars
* Turbo Swaps
* Blabbity blah blah

I am curious about these "2007" improvements though.

AMS, dyno a stock IX SE soon please.
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