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Old May 3, 2008 | 09:40 PM
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Old May 3, 2008 | 09:52 PM
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Yes I am going to mod it. I have all ready ordered the upper and inlet pipe kit from http://www.ralliart.co.nz/Parts.html. Getting though local dealer.
Will all so add FMC ,Filter, Test pipe and exhaust, Boost controller and stiffer waste gate spring and of course ECU Flash. We have 98 oct pump gas here so hope for 350 Whp
You will definitely have a world-wide following watching these mods on the SST. Please do before and after dynos so we can see the increase, even though some say the SST will not dyno properly. If you do, you may well be the first on the planet and we will send you money to help cover the costs even if it turns out to be a waste of time. Also, for the uninitiated, 98 octane is 98 RON pretty much every where but in the US. It is approximately equal to our 93 octane which is an average of RON and MON.
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Old May 3, 2008 | 10:00 PM
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Yes you are correct 5+3+2= 10 but it should have read 4+3+2=9. They are having supply prob's here 2 as the dealer told me they were expecting 22 more next month but that has been cut to 7. I have had no problems with is over heating miss behaving in any way. Cold or hot. It has had a hard drive or 2 and seen 220+ on a closed road.
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Old May 3, 2008 | 10:12 PM
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I will clean it and take some pic's . I have managed to talk to some interesting people
about modifying it. Check this link http://www.wrcdevelopments.com/pages...?page=about_us
So It looks like 2 of the main people responsible for the FQ series (Including FQ400) in the UK have moved down to little old NZ. I have rung them and they are genuine.
Graham Neale has just finish doing some development work for ECUtec and the X and they have a 360 HP Kit available. They say they have the kit fitted to an SST in the UK and it has been performing well. They just want to get the development Km's done before they will market it for the X SST. I will round up all the required parts and take a drive down to see them and they will tune it for me.
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Old May 3, 2008 | 10:20 PM
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I will get a base dyno done before I start bolting things on. Just for interest sake I have notice that if I switch between normal and sport and S-Sport on the transmission my instant fuel consumption changes. this means there are 3 separate ECU maps for these 3 settings. May take advantage of this when I get the ECU done.
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Old May 3, 2008 | 10:26 PM
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now that is pretty badass, could cause some delay in getting an aftermarket ECU, then again i dont know anything about ECU programming. I only assume to make one chip with 3 options would be a biach
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Old May 3, 2008 | 10:40 PM
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Simply awesome. Can't wait to see more info this. My eyes are on this thread!
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Old May 4, 2008 | 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by NZEvox
I will get a base dyno done before I start bolting things on. Just for interest sake I have notice that if I switch between normal and sport and S-Sport on the transmission my instant fuel consumption changes. this means there are 3 separate ECU maps for these 3 settings. May take advantage of this when I get the ECU done.
That is pretty cool, so it is much like STI's SI system...running different maps in different modes is possibly the very most awesomeest thing evarr
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Old May 4, 2008 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by NZEvox
I will get a base dyno done before I start bolting things on. Just for interest sake I have notice that if I switch between normal and sport and S-Sport on the transmission my instant fuel consumption changes. this means there are 3 separate ECU maps for these 3 settings. May take advantage of this when I get the ECU done.
MAte, are you 100% sure abt the 3 different maps? thats awesome, to me it only felt like a more aggressive gearshift and throttle response cos of the e throttle.... I did a drag with another e10 5/mt and stock to stock the sst will rape the 5m/t!!!! ratios make a heap of difference!!!!
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Old May 4, 2008 | 12:00 PM
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The bolt-ons (exhaust, intake, intercooler, uicp, licp, mbc) and Tune: Can the SST handle it?
With all those mods the SST should be well over 300 whp and near 330-350 whp( thats jus a guess). Would it be able to sustain it?
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Old May 4, 2008 | 05:37 PM
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Well I think that he is looking to find out....
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Old May 4, 2008 | 06:01 PM
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Smile OEM understated SST Torque Limit!

IMO the stated torque limit is probaly 30% low for warranty purposes and general engineering conservative specifications. I bet we will find that the SST will survive at 450 Pound Feet of Torque when it is actually pushed by the tuners. It will most likely need more cooling by after market Transmission cooler packages and also some special clutch packages at this level of torque, and will satistfy 95% of the end user's need for speed out there when it comes right down to it.

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Old May 4, 2008 | 06:40 PM
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Ok Could be wrong but this is my theory.
Mitsubishi seem to be using this transmission http://www.getrag.de/en/232 It is rated at 450 NM Max.
Now that rating will have a safety margin in it How much who knows. But if I limit the Tq to 450nm or not too much more I should be still be able to make good HP further up the rev range. torque=(52525*HP)/RPM.
Now I know Mitsubishi UK has a SST FQ360 doing test miles and HKS SST has this http://www.windowslivetranslator.com...hi%2Fevo10.htm

As for the multi map theory if any one else can explain that if the throttle is stationary and you are a a set speed on a flat road. Box in manual and you select the sport mode and the instant fuel reading moves a few bars then you put it back to normal and it instantly goes back. You can even stop put it in s-sport manual get up to cursing speed and move it though to sport then normal and watch it improve fuel consumption with every move. ? May be wrong but have a gut feeling there are 3 maps :-) . Well hope so
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Old May 4, 2008 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by NZEvox
Ok Could be wrong but this is my theory.
Mitsubishi seem to be using this transmission http://www.getrag.de/en/232 It is rated at 450 NM Max.
Now that rating will have a safety margin in it How much who knows. But if I limit the Tq to 450nm or not too much more I should be still be able to make good HP further up the rev range. torque=(52525*HP)/RPM.
Yeah, it seems unlikely that a 110% of stock torque would be a problem (450 nm = 332 ft-lbs.) I'll bet that 120% will also be alright and you won't hit a torque-induced limp mode until you reach 130%. Same for hp increases. But with hp increases, the big unknown is going to be service life. The UK Ralliart guy was quoted as saying they wouldn't increase power on the FQ SST's until they had done substantial long term reliability testing. Which is why I doubt that the torque limit is over 400 ft-lbs. Mitsu has got to be worried about having a bunch of trannies fail before or even shortly after the warranty expires, even if they would feel justified in not honoring the warranties due to power mods.

Originally Posted by NZEvox
Now I know Mitsubishi UK has a SST FQ360 doing test miles and HKS SST has this http://www.windowslivetranslator.com...hi%2Fevo10.htm

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I hadn't heard about SST FQ 360 testing, but it wouldn't surprise me. That HKS, however, appears to actually be an RS despite the listing of the tranny as SST. There are pics taken from inside the car while it was running in an event in Japan and you can clearly see the MT stick.
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Old May 6, 2008 | 12:38 AM
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I also have a Evo X SST in New Zealand. It is one of the 4 red ones. It was VIN'ed in Japan (made) in November 2007 and I received it in February 2008. Standard equipment in NZ is the BBS wheels, Brembo two piece brake disks, Eibachs and Bilsteins. The sound system is the basic one and it is fitted with the black cloth Recaros.
My ownership impressions to date are as follows:
The transmission changes into 6th as soon as possible in normal use and uses the engines considerable torque to maintain speed. The slightest pressure on the accelerator instantaneously changes to a lower gear. The effect is quick, quiet progress but devastating rapid response to close up any gaps. Its capability to corner without drama if you use the technique of always powering out of the corner is almost magic. With the SST you always have power out of the corner.
Launch is as easy as mashing the accelerator to the firewall. Camping on the brakes to enable a faster time seems almost counterproductive as it achieves 4.9 seconds to 60mph (VBox measured) without abuse.
My Evo X SST feels a class, or even two, above my previous Evo viii. The engine immediately returns to the idle with no hold up and the ride is dramatically better. The electronic key is ok, but is physically too large and having to turn the keyless ignition switch is plain old fashioned. The wipers are not adequate for the cars performance and the self sensing wipers are not calibrated for higher speeds.
Fuel use is considerably less than the Eight because I suspect I am getting the same high across the ground times without the vehicle working as hard. My favorite two and a half hour commute leaves me fresher, with a bigger smile and pleased that the SST transmission decision suits me just fine.
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