One day there's a thread where someone complains that something didn't get covered under warranty when it should have, even with a stock car. The next day there's a thread where everyone bashes a guy who returns his car to stock to attempt to get warranty work.

The main thing here is that some dealers turn away any kind of warranty work on an evo. The slightest mod gets blamed for something completely unrelated. And even if he does return his car to stock, some dealers will blame it on racing or something. I'm not going to start an ethical dilemma thread, but I just think you should cut him some slack. If he broke it by abusing it or whatever, then maybe he should pay for it. But... if the dealer see's all his mods as is, he'll automatically be turned away without them even looking into the issue.

 

No, and it's quite sad that this is your general outlook on humanity.

 

Okay, but that's the point. Who is going to pay the dealer technicians who are going to be tied up trying to diagnose some guy's science project of a tuner car just to find out if part A, B, or C did or did not cause the damage? You of course, want this to be done for free, meanwhile the old man with the stock Galant, and the single mom with three kids and their stock Outlander get pushed to the side because the techs have to dissasemble and analyze a modded car to see if it should be covered or not.

The simple answer is, they don't have to. They're not trained for it and they won't put themselves in a liability issue messing with something that doesn't have Genuine Mitsu parts and doesn't work like a stock Mitsubishi does.

 

Yes I have to side with GPTourer on this one. It is a liability issue and Mitsu techs shouldn't have to touch that tranny unless the owner wants self paid repair work done. Granted, if his radio stops working or something entirely unrelated to excessive power through the tranny comes up, Mitsu should warranty it.

This case is different from most because of what is needed to be warrantied here. I'm sure those techs won't have a clue about what to look for when opening up that tranny. They will have to determine the cause based upon symptoms and user use, and in this case it would be hard to say the two are not related.

But, I do think people are straying here. The OP created this thread to warn people; not to debate them on whether he should get his tranny replaced on Mitsu's dime. Let's leave the debate at home and at least thank the poster for having the stones to tell his story. Hopefully you SST people can learn from this and that one guinea pig will be enough.

 

ASSumptions will make an *** out of you... So, continue to ASSume you know a story, and you continue to look more and more like an ***.

None of you have any proof that the failure of the tranny is due to the mods, nor do any of you have the proof that this failure would not have happened if there had been no mods (clearly, this has already happened to a ralliart owner).

The other side all of you bashers are failing to keep in mind is that mitsu/getrag will get this failed transmission and have an opportunity to see what went wrong, and make changes to future design. You can't always fix a problem that doesn't present itself. Any sort of engineering, whether hardware or software cannot have all its bugs worked out without testing in the real world. Even mitsu testers can't get a car into 5% of the scenarios the end user would.

Also, The mitsubishi warranty does not say that modifications void the warranty. It states that if the mods are found to have been culpable, then the warranty is void.

 

Yes, of course, because Mitsu will always vigorously test to see what the mods did and whether or not they contributed to the failure. Are you insane!? Use Occam's razor here (because this is exactly what Mitsu will do). What's the more likely scenario, that the MR tranny was destined to fail and the mods had nothing to do with it, or... that the tranny blew so early because it was being overpowered? I've seen warranties denied for TURBO TIMERS, and the BS that Mitsu spitted out was total nonsense, but nevertheless they "proved" it according to the written law and the warranty addendum.

It's totally possible that the tranny was doomed to fail regardless of mods. But... when you add stress on a component via modification that has failed, you kind of doom the possibility that the manufacturer will find the initial flaw. Do you think Mitsu would:

-Research and analyze each mod to see what it does
-Check for correct installation of the mod
-ASSUME those mods work as fluently and as safely with OEM equipment as actual OEM equipment
-Have techs that could do all this
-And actually be honest even if they do all of the above and admit the flaw was not mod related?

No way, not a chance. Let's say for instance that you buy a sweatshirt. Unknown to you, that sweatshirt has a microscopic tear that will eventually rip open. Nevertheless, you use that sweatshirt as a hammock for your 400 pound mother in law. The sweatshirt tears, and would have torn anyway, but now it tore violently and abruptly because of abuse. Could you bring it back to the store and demand a refund?

The fact that it could be a defect and not an abuse is immaterial at this point for the OP. It's important to MR owners because it can shed some light on what they should do. That's the focus of the thread. That's why the OP posted this thread. For everyone's benefit. Don't thank him by defending his situation, he already admitted that he thinks it was from overpowering.

 

Thank you for noticing!

That would *like* to do this? Yes.

That are *capable* of doing this? Not that I have seen. Possible, but not likely.

 

There is not hard evidence that someone can blame the modifications. However lets not be naive. GSRand previous manual-drivers know that when they modify their car, they also modify their clutches/flywheels etc.
From the latest news I have heard from the transmission is...that mitsubishi is giving away Ralliarts and helping some tuning companies design upgrades for the SST since that will help their sales, now this isn't 'authentic' it's just something I have heard.

 

Its not entirely unreasonable to think that Mitsu has loaned preproduction mules destined to be crushed to tuners to tinker with.

 

This thread is out of control and in no way is helpful to ANYONE. Close it.

Why does every one feel they have to be the moral voice of reason around here. We are all adults, can we just stick to the facts and put the BS conversations to rest...It really brings the whole board down.

 

Ok so now we have finally moved on from the arguing here...

Mitsu have ordered my part and will be back on the road next week.... (sorry to the haters) The full diagnosis of the car i will post up at a later date, but the trans was bad to being with the mods justy helped this move faster......

This thread has moved far beyond me warning people about the trans and thats sad... Thank you to the people who PMed me about questions and concerns. I am disapointed that this thred moved to where it did, but remember this thread was a warning about the sst and nothing more. I wans't trying to get one up, just doing what everyone else would do....

 

So i just got back from Mitsu and they are sending the part out from Japan and will be here monday. This IS COVERED UNDER WARRANTY. Mine was the first MR to go in the records of MItsu. The problem wasn't with the entire trans but the clutch that controls 1st, 3rd and 5th. The clutch wasn't grabbing very well. Due to the fact it is unserviceable they are sending out an entire unit.

 

thanks for updating
was the damaged caused by the mods the car has?

 

Heya philamthebest, what Mitsu dealer did you deal with? I think im havin problems with my SST also. And this is without any mods. Might be stopping by a Mitsu dealership soon for a check up.

 

and whats your problem?