TCC-SST filter?
I was bit putoff when I went into a local Evo speed shop for a TC-SST fluid flush and filter change with 30,000 mi on the clock, the first guy I talked to was unaware that the Evo X MR came with a transmission other than the 5 speed manual, the second guy never heard of a "filter" for the transmission! I cancelled the fluid change to do more research.
I called SSP and they told me it was very important that I change the filter as it can effect fluid pressure and, as a result, shifting performance. Any opinion on the importance of changing the filter with the fluid?
I called SSP and they told me it was very important that I change the filter as it can effect fluid pressure and, as a result, shifting performance. Any opinion on the importance of changing the filter with the fluid?
Last edited by kmart888; Aug 28, 2010 at 04:01 PM.
I finally found a source (and a competent parts guy) for the filter at South Coast Mitsubishi ($120 with forum discount) and decided to let them replace the filter and oil while I was there ($50 labor).
I was dismayed when they questioned the quality of the oil I brought in, they had never heard of Willall SST fluid and asked me to accept responsibility if the fluid caused then gearbox to fail ($$$). Then the tech working on the car asked me if he was supposed to put the whole container (8 ltrs.) in the gearbox! Getting wary of the technicians expertise I told him to make sure he had removed all three drain plugs and filled the gearbox with ~5.8 litrs of the fluid, he assured me he would fill it with the right amount.
This did nothing to evoke my confidence in the shop but If the improved shifting performance after the change is any indication the shop must have done this complicated
task correctly. I must stop being lazy and do these things myself, it is the only way to be sure.
For some time now I have been having trouble with a hesitation during WOT shifting, the log showed the fuel mixture would go way rich momentarily just as the SST would shift so I have been chasing this problem from a ECU tuning perspective with out success, however, the fluid and filter change has apparently fixed the the problem, the TC-SST gearbox shifted perfectly on the way home from the shop
! Who whould'a thunk? I will remain mystified by the interaction of the ECU/TCU, I'm guessing it was a fluid pressure issue caused by a clogged filter.
I was dismayed when they questioned the quality of the oil I brought in, they had never heard of Willall SST fluid and asked me to accept responsibility if the fluid caused then gearbox to fail ($$$). Then the tech working on the car asked me if he was supposed to put the whole container (8 ltrs.) in the gearbox! Getting wary of the technicians expertise I told him to make sure he had removed all three drain plugs and filled the gearbox with ~5.8 litrs of the fluid, he assured me he would fill it with the right amount.
This did nothing to evoke my confidence in the shop but If the improved shifting performance after the change is any indication the shop must have done this complicated
task correctly. I must stop being lazy and do these things myself, it is the only way to be sure.For some time now I have been having trouble with a hesitation during WOT shifting, the log showed the fuel mixture would go way rich momentarily just as the SST would shift so I have been chasing this problem from a ECU tuning perspective with out success, however, the fluid and filter change has apparently fixed the the problem, the TC-SST gearbox shifted perfectly on the way home from the shop
! Who whould'a thunk? I will remain mystified by the interaction of the ECU/TCU, I'm guessing it was a fluid pressure issue caused by a clogged filter.
Last edited by kmart888; Aug 31, 2010 at 08:37 AM.
I was bit putoff when I went into a local Evo speed shop for a TC-SST fluid flush and filter change with 30,000 mi on the clock, the first guy I talked to was unaware that the Evo X MR came with a transmission other than the 5 speed manual, the second guy never heard of a "filter" for the transmission! I cancelled the fluid change to do more research.
I called SSP and they told me it was very important that I change the filter as it can effect fluid pressure and, as a result, shifting performance. Any opinion on the importance of changing the filter with the fluid?
I called SSP and they told me it was very important that I change the filter as it can effect fluid pressure and, as a result, shifting performance. Any opinion on the importance of changing the filter with the fluid?
I am going with the Severe Maintenance Schedule as a precautionary, and planning to change mine real soon with SSP fluid and filter.
As far as I know, Willall Racing & SSP are the only two that I know who make very good trans fluid specially formulated for SST transmission.
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+1 for changing your fluid before 30k miles.
Guys, you gotta be aware that using anything except
fluid is grounds to reject a warranty claim on a transmission. Telling them you weren't using the factory fluid might have just cost you a transmission. Don't use other fluid unless you're prepared for the possible consequences.
(And yes i'm aware of SSP and WillALL fluid, just saying)
Guys, you gotta be aware that using anything except
fluid is grounds to reject a warranty claim on a transmission. Telling them you weren't using the factory fluid might have just cost you a transmission. Don't use other fluid unless you're prepared for the possible consequences.(And yes i'm aware of SSP and WillALL fluid, just saying)
+1 for changing your fluid before 30k miles.
Guys, you gotta be aware that using anything except
fluid is grounds to reject a warranty claim on a transmission. Telling them you weren't using the factory fluid might have just cost you a transmission. Don't use other fluid unless you're prepared for the possible consequences.
(And yes i'm aware of SSP and WillALL fluid, just saying)
Guys, you gotta be aware that using anything except
fluid is grounds to reject a warranty claim on a transmission. Telling them you weren't using the factory fluid might have just cost you a transmission. Don't use other fluid unless you're prepared for the possible consequences.(And yes i'm aware of SSP and WillALL fluid, just saying)
I accept responsibility for the car and the way it was treated and will pay for the repairs.Paul
Last edited by kmart888; Sep 7, 2010 at 04:33 PM.
I mean the fluid COULD cause damage in other places as well. In
5 speeds, you can NOT use GL-5 gear oil because of the high sulfuric content, it destroys synchros and gears. So
can legally deny a warranty on those transmissions for such oversight.
I'm not saying SSP and WillAll is bad fluid either. In fact, it probably is better. But there hasn't been as much testing with it as the SST fluid, therefor
has the right to say only use their fluid. Who knows what could happen, maybe after 20k miles the willAll will bake onto the clutches and fry them. (I'm not saying this has happened, I'm giving a fictional example).
around here is decent at their warranty, unless you are just very neglectful and modded something they are working on, they will usually honor the warranty.
I still haven't heard of a SST warranty being denied. Though I'm sure it has happened, but I don't think it's very common.
5 speeds, you can NOT use GL-5 gear oil because of the high sulfuric content, it destroys synchros and gears. So
can legally deny a warranty on those transmissions for such oversight. I'm not saying SSP and WillAll is bad fluid either. In fact, it probably is better. But there hasn't been as much testing with it as the SST fluid, therefor
has the right to say only use their fluid. Who knows what could happen, maybe after 20k miles the willAll will bake onto the clutches and fry them. (I'm not saying this has happened, I'm giving a fictional example).
around here is decent at their warranty, unless you are just very neglectful and modded something they are working on, they will usually honor the warranty.I still haven't heard of a SST warranty being denied. Though I'm sure it has happened, but I don't think it's very common.
As Getrag makes this tranny, and Getrag makes TC-SST pentosin tranny fluid-I wonder what fluid Getrag is adding to the SST before shipping them to Mitsu? FFL-2 (VW)? FFL-3 (Porsche)? FFL-4?
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