I am having a problem with my 10 ralliart I have clutch chatter it seams like and also when at cruise speed the clutches seem like the disengage and reengage like a 200 to 400 rpm range and when you really get on it has like a 700 rpm jump and this is in normal and sport mode. the mods I have are k&n filter, injen uicp and turbo back exhaust also no codes yet from trans and some insight would be great because I am thinking its in the clutch area also the car only has about 32000 miles

thanks for any help you guys can give me

 

If you are running something other than OEM fluid, switch back to OEM.

If the car is not properly tuned, get that done. Ralliarts are more likely to have premature clutch wear from improper tuning than the Evo MR. If after both of these are done, the problem persists, you will likely need to replace the clutch pack.

If you have been running non OEM fluid, like Pentosyn, it may take up to 3000 miles after switching back to OEM fluid for the rpm hunt in cruise to go away.

 

no every thing is oem but the turbo back and also uicp and kn air filter are the only mods and was running fine for about year then this started I am thinking its the clutch pack also but I am going to dig into it this winter while the car is put away and I have time to tear into it and get down to it

also thank you for the reply I might be giving you guys a call this week to price out parts

 

Well the SSTs are notorious for going bad. Before I even owned an Evo I knew the SSTs were well known for going out early. I had my Lancer and would always talk to anyone I saw with an Evo to ask them about their car and performance, what they had in it, how well it's holding up, the kind of questions a perspective buyer would be asking, and transmission is the thing I always heard about the most. Be it either because how much they loved being able to go from automatic in rush hour traffic to manual for fun-time in the blink of an eye, or how much they hated it because it's been replaced twice in 30k miles. I remember the guy who put in my DSL saw my Lancer and started talking to me about them because he owned an Evo, and after he talked about how much he loved the performance the next word out of his mouth was a BUT and then came the transmission problems he was telling me he had.

I don't know why but for some stupid reason Mitsubishi refuses to put a radiator on the tranny big enough to cool it down properly. I don't know if it's true or not, but I read somewhere online for the 2014's Mitsubishi re-did the cooling unit for the MR SST, whether or not that factored over into the Ralliart as well, I don't know. And as I said, I just remember reading it online somewhere, so I don't even know if it's true. It's possible, because I know Mitsubishi did re-work a few things for the '14s, but whether or not they actually fixed the whole SST problem I don't know. You figure they would've with as many complaints and as many replacements/repairs they have to do on the earlier models.

But I can't tell you how many people I'd talked to over the years with Evo MRs and Ralliarts that have had not one but multiple transmissions replaced, and every time I'd drive by a Mitsubishi lot there'd be a few Evo's out there waiting for a new transmission. Even when I bought my MR there was a 2010 Rally Red GSR sitting outside the parts department because I was looking at it to compare the 2010 Rally Red to the '14's red color, because I thought the '14s looked more Maroon than red, and they told me it was waiting for a new clutch as I was looking at it, so maybe even the GSRs have clutch/tranny issues. Either that or the guy who owned that GSR just can't drive a stick or has dogged the hell out of his car so bad the transmission finally gave out. But that always seems to be the #1 complaint with the Evos: Transmission. That and the cheap interior. >_> When you hear that kind of stuff it almost makes you want to steer clear of the SSTs, but when it came time to buy, in my opinion the pros outweighed the cons, and I wanted the added extras the MR brought to the table and not give up the upgraded suspension and whatnot just to have regular gated manual, but that's me. I could care less about manuals; I've shifted enough gears and I get tired of it after a while, and dealing with the cons of them like morons who get 1/4th inch off your bumper on a steep incline when you're trying to take off from a stop sign or something. -_-

I bought the SST cooling kit from AMS, I just need to find the time to install it. Only thing that has me sort of not wanting to put it on is it's going to interfere with a LICP if I decide to get one, as the LICP is going to bump into the new radiator that cools the tranny because its a few steps up in size over OEM. But from what I've been told and from what I've seen, it's not like a LICP is going to net you some huge performance gain. I honestly just think it's more aesthetics than it is anything else. Sure you might get a little bit more out of your FMIC, but which is more important, saving your transmission, or having 5 more horsepower.

 

have you check the airflow sensor & the MAP sensor? sort of thing happens to me right after I change my ic pipe & intake filter.

I check a few reading with OBDlink, turns out my MAP sensor no giving a correct pressure reading. Clean the MAP sensor & everything good.

 

I will be looking into that tomorrow but most likely going to be my clutch packs and seals after getting off the phone from kozmic motorsports great insight and friendly people to chat with but I will give them a cleaning its only like 3$ for a can of ele cleaner

 

Maybe you guys got a bad batch of SST's out by you because everyone around me hasn't had a single issue. We've had MR's and Ralliart's from all the different years and not one has had a problem. None of us run an SST cooler, and none of us baby the cars.

As long as you keep up on the proper maintenance schedule you should be fine. I'm at 55K miles and still running strong.

 

Well the biggest question is are you running OEM, or are you running modified? Running OEM, I'm sure the SST holds up perfect even in S-Sport mode running laps on a track, and show no ill signs as a daily driver. But when you start doing things to your car stuff changes. I just know I've heard my fair share of horror stories about the problems that "can" be there with the SST; but on the flip side I've also heard horror stories from the GSR's 5-speed. And I mean honestly, I think everyone with an Evo mods it in some form or another. Some might wait until their warranty is gone just to be safe, others might buy it and go hog wild and have it shooting out 4 or 500 WHP before it's even got a thousand miles on it, but I think everyone who buys an Evo eventually does some work on it. I mean, that's why we buy them. (Or at least why I bought mine) =P

I know from experience with my dad dragging and from growing up around car nuts that every car you buy (and even parts) is a flip of a coin. As I said in an earlier post, you can take two identical cars off the exact same production line as they roll off, put them over on a dyno, and one will post higher numbers than the other. When you buy a car you're really just playing the lottery and hoping the car you bought isn't a lemon. It could be that there was a bad batch, but as I said the area I'm in there's few Mitsubishi dealerships, and even fewer Evos. So it's not like they've all come from a single car lot that made a batch order or something and they were all bad. Most of the dealers around here (and I'm speaking Statewide, minus the Eastern Panhandle as I don't know too much about what goes on over there) don't even have Evos on their lots or in their showrooms because for our area, there's not a huge demand, and there's not a lot of people that can afford them. I called literally (and I mean literally) every Mitsubishi dealer in the state to find my MR, and I found the only MR in all of WV. There were a few dealers that had some GSRs, but only 1 MR. And somehow I got lucky in the fact it had everything I was looking for minus the upgraded Nav system, which I can live without, was the color I wanted, and everything just worked out. Although I had to make a 6 hour round trip to go get it because it was so far away >_>

Honestly, I've seen more DeLoreans while driving than Evos, and I'm not even kidding you on that. I've seen plenty of Lancers dressed up pretending to be Evos, but I can count on 1 hand how many true Evolutions I've seen around here since I started paying attention back in 2010 when I got my first Lancer.

I'm hoping I've got a strong car and I don't have any issues with the pumps, the tranny, or anything else, and it's a good solid ride. But even if it is, if I put more strain on it with aftermarket bolt ons, or for example do engine work on it like port the heads, then the car's weakest link WILL break, whatever that link happens to be. Which is why serious drag racing is big money. Even just trying to be a DIYer and just tinker with your car here and there and work towards a certain goal you have in mind, it's almost a never-ending process of, "Well I built this up, now I gotta reinforce this, or build this up to hold up to the added power of what I just beefed up."

Basically TL;DR

Under OEM load, I'm sure the SST holds up fine. I can't speak too much for it as my '14 has like 1,200 miles on it so I don't know how well it's going to hold up. But when you start modding your car and neglect your tranny, the weak link will break. But if you upgrade the SST and throw a cooler on it, I'm sure it'll hold up just fine.