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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 10:44 PM
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More 6spd carnage!!

Right on cue, after reading about Razorlab losing 4th recently, I lost 4th today as well after some intense laps on the road course today. I use 4th for about 80% of the track (if not more) and don't shift much at all, so I guess it just gave up the ghost. Gear 1-2-3-5-6 are all fine with no obvious issues, but 4th is completely gone, and I can hear a hunk of metal bouncing around in there only when moving.

I guess it's time to send it to Shep, but just wanted to share another MR 6spd story. It was a crappy day all around, since my V710s shredded, and I fouled up one of my stock wheel studs. On the bright side, using Hawk HP+ pads up front (stock rotors/stock lines) was VERY successful - those things definitely worked better than anything I've felt, which is mainly just stock rotors + stock pads. They bedded nicely, then took everything I gave them with no problem. I also got enough track time with my lead instructor to get signed off for HPDE4, but now it's time for new race tires and a rebuilt tranny.
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 10:49 PM
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Sorry to hear. No interest in going with Jon for the tranny? Don't take it the wrong way, just curious.
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 11:01 PM
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damn sorry to hear that. So i guess what i heard a while back might be true. I guess the old 5 spds are a bit stronger? It kind of makes sense, same size tranny, but one extra gear = smaller/ weaker gear set?
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 11:02 PM
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I would trust TRE with my tranny for sure. I'm going with Shep since he's part of the Buschur team.
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 11:04 PM
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It's always possible. Maybe 4th is particularly weaker while 1-3 are stronger. It probably didn't help that I use 4th almost exclusively on the local tracks.

Oh, forgot to mention that I still managed to put down the fastest lap of the day. This was only HPDE3/HPDE4 cars, so not a bunch of race cars were included, although a few participated as HPDE4 cars. Only 2 of us were below 1:50, and my best was 1:46.9 on the RT615s - had no good times on the V710s, because they were on their way to the grave apparently.
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 11:05 PM
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Right on. Both highly skilled guys for sure.
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 11:07 PM
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i told you the hawk pad's and ss lines where the ****. did you get motal brake fluid. if not do it. you will see more difference. i love my brake setup. sorry about the trans
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 11:10 PM
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ouch!!! Warrtalon take it easy will ya , Nah i know u love tearing that gearbox up . Well at least it's not that bad since now u will take it to sherperd for a nice rebuilt so you can go to the track and unleash that beast, I love my car!!!
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 11:19 PM
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Dan, I still have the stock lines, stock rotors and SuperBlue from before. The rotors/lines will show up here soon, but I wanted the pads immediately, so VIP Garage overnighted the HP+'s to me after receiving them on Friday. They were great and interestingly they didn't squeal despite not re-using the shims nor bothering to grease them - I only planned on using them on the road course, but they weren't noisy anyway.
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Dan, I still have the stock lines, stock rotors and SuperBlue from before. The rotors/lines will show up here soon, but I wanted the pads immediately, so VIP Garage overnighted the HP+'s to me after receiving them on Friday. They were great and interestingly they didn't squeal despite not re-using the shims nor bothering to grease them - I only planned on using them on the road course, but they weren't noisy anyway.
i had my shims in. i took them out as well. well i thought you said you had the lines in. my bad. but just wait man. what a difference. but i would realy get that b/f out and put some motul rbf 600 brake fluid in. i think evo's use 2.somthing pint. i blead mine to 3 pint. i got about 6 pints left. next for me is rotors. that should do it. o and maby a lil paint job on my brown and pink calipers

my brake are rock solid and i love them. with how you drive your car i think you will to

what line's did you get and rotor's?
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 11:30 PM
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I think the rotors (slotted) are made by Centric, and I think the lines are made by Teknafit? I didn't order them - they just get sent to me by VIP Garage through their brake supplier.
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 11:30 PM
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thats sucks , ohh well time for upgrades!!!
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
I think the rotors (slotted) are made by Centric, and I think the lines are made by Teknafit? I didn't order them - they just get sent to me by VIP Garage through their brake supplier.
sounds right. yea i got stoptek line's and if i have the money id like the gyrodisk? b/r did his test on. i think they are slotted as well g/l with the setup. let us know how you like it. im positive you will love it tho.
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 11:36 PM
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o and to help get back on topic what will they do to the tran's. what service's will you be getting?
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 01:27 AM
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That sucks Clayton. Sounds exactly like my failure. 4th gear and everything. It's turning out to be the problem gear in the 6spd.

The heat this summer isn't helping obviously.

Hopefully my rebuild + tranny cooler keeps it away in the future.

best of luck in the repair. I'll let you know how mine goes and you do the same!

I hope you got it towed home as any driving, even in other gears can make it worse and in return, cost more $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
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