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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 01:53 PM
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No worries. Since we're reasonably close, I thought I'd offer. Hate to lose much of the best time of the year for car use, but John S. is pretty quick on turnaround, so you might only be down a little while.

If anyone is looking for a modified 6 speed in perfect condition, still at TRE (would be shipped directly to you from TRE) please look here: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=214092 Thanks, all.

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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 02:11 PM
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You were just getting it as a spare?
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 02:37 PM
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about how many track miles do you estimate before it broke?
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 02:59 PM
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500 road course miles, 200+ drag runs (100+ low 12s) all with a powershift on the 3-4, and about 20 autocrosses, although that's never higher than 3rd.
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 03:17 PM
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For me, about 1400 or so road course miles. zero drag runs. "aggressive" 32k miles of street driving. I think I launched the car once a long time ago.
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 03:25 PM
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I probably have close to 300 launches, since most of my autocrosses at the beginning were non-SCCA where I got 6 runs and almost always had room for a full launch. I dont' know if the launches would have any effect on 4th going bad, though. I think it was mostly my recent change to always using 4th all the way around both local tracks.
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 04:10 PM
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500 road course miles, 200+ drag runs (100+ low 12s) all with a powershift on the 3-4, and about 20 autocrosses, although that's never higher than 3rd.
thank you for the info. you have been having a great time i see.
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 05:44 PM
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That is seriously messed up. Sorry to hear about that. This is making me worry about mine now..
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Do a tranny cooler.. now!
I have a lot of experience with weak trannies. I have broken about 4 of them on my SE-R race car. The SE-R has one weak sauce tranny. Any pressure plate that was 30% stiffer than stock broke the tranny under racing conditions. The weakest gear was third gear, but I have broken 4th gear as well.

The way we finally reduced the failure was to run shockproof heavy gear oil and use stock like clutchs and pressure plates. Maybe 6 speed Evo owners should try using the shockproof heavy gear oil and see if that helps.
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 08:28 PM
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Maybe 6 speed Evo owners should try using the shockproof heavy gear oil and see if that helps.
Yeah, like that is gonna happen.

Transmission coolers and tight tolerances are key.
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Well, since that was the best pad I've ever driven on, it felt like a huge upgrade compared to the stock pads. Then again, the majority of my fast driving yesterday was done on the RT615s. I got no good laps on the V710s that were cording, so maybe I haven't yet had the chance to overpower the HP+'s since my r-comps were out of commission. Regardless, these pads felt way way better than my stock pads, so I'm excited. If the Hawk Blues are that much better, then I'm even more excited!
Warr,

I use the Hawk Blue pads on my race car and they are great on a light weight car around 2500-2800 lbs. On the Evo, however, they will be overworked. There is a better hawk compound than the Blue, but its name escapes me right now. It is specifically designed for heavy cars like our Evos.
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 08:38 PM
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Hmm, ok, is it the HT-10 or HT-14?
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Yah, until you use your car on a real road course and have to brake hard from 130mph, then you really have no idea what your brakes are capable of...you should definitely get to a road course and try it out. It blows drag and auto-x away, because it makes full use of every aspect of the car: handling, braking, acceleration, top speed, and the DRIVER MOD.
Right on Clayton. There is nothing and I mean nothing like being on a road course. Drag racing, autox do not even come close. The amount of time you spend on the track when you go hotlapping if far far more than the amount of time you spend on the drag strip or autox. Once people try the road course, then they will be hooked.

And once you try actual door to door racing, thern hotlapping becomes pale by comparison.
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 08:41 PM
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Yeah, for now, I'll have to be content with time trials, but once the Evo is paid off, it will get caged for door-to-door racing.
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
Yeah, like that is gonna happen.

Transmission coolers and tight tolerances are key.
How do you know? Did you try it? Did you break four trannies from road racing? Do you road race a car door-to-door?

I have been road racing since 2000 and I have three competition licenses, SCCA, NASA, and TCRA. How many do you have from road racing organiztions?

How can you tell if shockproof heavy will work or not, if you did not try it?
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