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Old May 26, 2007 | 08:27 AM
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^I'm curious too.
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Old May 26, 2007 | 04:32 PM
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I personally think picking up the front wheel in corner exit on an Awd car is definitely not a good sign. Maybe not enough droop travel on the front shocks or too big of a front ARB?
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Old May 26, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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that could of been a bump he hit.
but in this picture of me it looks like its almost going to happen. but since im on stock shocks and on aftermarket springs i stayed down.

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Old May 26, 2007 | 09:25 PM
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Yeah, that's the first time I've seen that on an EVO. Pretty common on Bimmers and Mustangs. . .

I don't know what caused it, but I think it is due to the very rough track. Lots of peaks and valleys.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by EVOlutionary
Yeah, that's the first time I've seen that on an EVO. Pretty common on Bimmers and Mustangs. . .

I don't know what caused it, but I think it is due to the very rough track. Lots of peaks and valleys.
Looks to me like a lack of suspension travel. If you don't have helper springs up front and you have really stiff springs (14K+), that could be the cause. Or it could just be that you're running the strut shorter than you need to with the helper springs. I ordered helpers for the rear of my car (12K) to get back some of my rear suspension travel. If I went to 14K+ in the front I think I'd need them up front too.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 05:36 AM
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I had the exact same socks on last year's car and it never did that . . .
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Old May 27, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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Looks like you hit a bump to me. Your rear looks like it is compressed to about the limit of rear travel.

And I def agree with Kevin about AWD cars picking up the inside front...doesn't help. I do think it is more common than people think though. I know my car does it now (14k front, no helper) and in the past (12k frt w/helper and more shock travel).
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Old May 28, 2007 | 03:10 AM
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Another thing I just thought of. Right now the rear bar is on full soft. That could account for the outside rear corner compressing alot and raising the inside front also. . . Getting ready for a Detroit Region event this morn.

Runnig ProIndex class against some pretty tough competition. I'll let you know how we do.

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Old May 28, 2007 | 05:39 AM
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If anyone is interested here's a little video from the NNJR event this last weekend that Daddio ran. Sorry, no actual video of Mark, difficult to get when you run in the same heat. His fast time was 45.0 (SM), mine (BSP) in the video is 46.1. There is also an STU video from the same event too.

http://holunfie.blogspot.com/

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Old May 29, 2007 | 01:50 PM
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So the new turbo and aem setup seems to work great. Unfortunately, it seems that my front tires were going off, as I could not get the front end to bite. The car is up on stands now, and I am double checking everything to make sure something isn't out of wack from the 2000 mile round tripper out to AMS. The handling on the car was nothing at all like it had been the first 3 events out, so I am not sure yet what to make of it. There were two tight turnarounds, and it didn't seem that I had to wait for boost, so that is a good sign. I guess Devens will be a crap shoot, as I am not sure exactly what to expect. We will see.
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Old May 29, 2007 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by EVO8LTW
Looks to me like a lack of suspension travel. If you don't have helper springs up front and you have really stiff springs (14K+), that could be the cause. Or it could just be that you're running the strut shorter than you need to with the helper springs. I ordered helpers for the rear of my car (12K) to get back some of my rear suspension travel. If I went to 14K+ in the front I think I'd need them up front too.

I would agree. EVOlutionary's rear end looks awefully low possibly comprimizing the rear suspension travel.

On the other hand, if I can ever get my car to reliably lift the inside front wheel, I will be a happy camper....
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Old May 29, 2007 | 05:32 PM
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with fwd bias not sure if lifting the front even reliably is a good thing. but it is something to ponder on.

maybe with that 40/60 diff i wouldnt mind so much. lol
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Old May 30, 2007 | 03:36 AM
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Problem with lifting the inside front is the OEM and GSC center diffs are open. Combine it with a helical front diff and the result is lots of wheelspin. Helical Diffs require both tires on the ground to be really effective.
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Old May 30, 2007 | 07:28 AM
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True. Now if you had a Cusco 1-way front LSD, alot of the power going to the inside wheel spin would be transferred first to the outside wheel, and then any wheel speed difference between the front and rear would be taken care of by either the VCU or ACD moving power to the rear.
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Old May 30, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by EVOlutionary
True. Now if you had a Cusco 1-way front LSD, alot of the power going to the inside wheel spin would be transferred first to the outside wheel, and then any wheel speed difference between the front and rear would be taken care of by either the VCU or ACD moving power to the rear.
Yes. Have you seen what they cost for non-acd cars? $2800 is the only pricing I have seen. Not much cheaper for ACD equipped cars either.
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