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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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Well Just my $0.02. First of all, Mr. Hamilton is clearly proving that his being in F1 is no accident. If you watch the way he played Massa, he FORCED him into a mistake twice. Massa had the faster car, and was clearly running faster than Hamilton at the time, but he wasn't the smarter of the two. Hamilton forced him off line and Massa would have had to pass him under an impossible angle. Of course, he locked up and went wide....twice. After that, you could almost see Massa's confidence drain out of him. If he was just a little more patient that all would have ended so differently.

Hamilton I think will win a GP this season but we will have to wait and see. I still think it's Kimi's championship to lose...time will tell.
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 07:02 PM
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"on another note, what the heck happened to Honda? they put the ridiculous paint scheme on their car and now the car is a pile of ****. good to see Super Aguri moving up the world though."

Honda guy,

Ruben Barrichello started last, so that is half of your answer. As far is Jenson Button, well, I am afraid to maintain my comments from previous years, like it or not he is an underachiever.

Jenson Button suppose to be the Bristish star and is letting his country well down(as per the british press). Last year he only did one podium.

Last but not least, This is a quote from Jenson Button: "This car is crap"(speaking of his Honda).

I don't want to put negative words on a Formula one driver for the fact that they are trillions years ahead of any other car competition but amongs themselves you can compare and make your own assumptions. My opinion is that Jenson Button is nothing but a mediocre driver. Sorry if I offend anyone.

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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dapaspy
Well Just my $0.02. First of all, Mr. Hamilton is clearly proving that his being in F1 is no accident. If you watch the way he played Massa, he FORCED him into a mistake twice. Massa had the faster car, and was clearly running faster than Hamilton at the time, but he wasn't the smarter of the two. Hamilton forced him off line and Massa would have had to pass him under an impossible angle. Of course, he locked up and went wide....twice. After that, you could almost see Massa's confidence drain out of him. If he was just a little more patient that all would have ended so differently.

Hamilton I think will win a GP this season but we will have to wait and see. I still think it's Kimi's championship to lose...time will tell.
I think this is a good point. The nuances of racing at this level have a lot to do with the mental preparation and execution of the drivers. This was a specialty that Schumacher had to a science by the end of his career. Massa's lack of mental toughness was disappointing, while Hamilton's craftiness was a nice surprise... i need a beer
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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Hamilton is great, no doubt. Call it sour grapes, but my opinion is he should be good after being groomed by Ron Dennis and his McLaren money for the past decade. Yes other drivers have had things handed to them as well and not shown as much promise, but this is my opinion.

Ill be interested to see where hes at in the standings by year end. I think it would be quite a turn of events to see him ahead of Kimi, or even Alonso...
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by fromWRXtoEVO
"on another note, what the heck happened to Honda? they put the ridiculous paint scheme on their car and now the car is a pile of ****. good to see Super Aguri moving up the world though."

Honda guy,

Ruben Barrichello started last, so that is half of your answer. As far is Jenson Button, well, I am afraid to maintain my comments from previous years, like it or not he is an underachiever.

Jenson Button suppose to be the Bristish star and is letting his country well down(as per the british press). Last year he only did one podium.

Last but not least, This is a quote from Jenson Button: "This car is crap"(speaking of his Honda).

I don't want to put negative words on a Formula one driver for the fact that they are trillions years ahead of any other car competition but amongs themselves you can compare and make your own assumptions. My opinion is that Jenson Button is nothing but a mediocre driver. Sorry if I offend anyone.

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Ruben did make good ground considering he started from 19th. I think Jenson is starting to loose his spirits because he is no longer the poster child for England as Hamilton is the new star for Britain.
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 08:57 PM
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I cant take anything away from hamilton. He did a great job holding off much more experienced drivers (massa and kimi). Even though I think kimi was cruising to preserve his engine, lewis still did a great job at keeping his cool considering "the fastest man on earth" was behing him ( carlos).

IMO massa did two complete newb mistakes. They are barely expected from a rookie, let alone one of the top drivers in the field. I think he was just a little too excited trying to pass lewis.... he needs to learn to be a little more like the iceman and keep his cool. IMO he is a great driver, but not a good racer. He can put a good lap together, but when he has to deal with traffic he just falls apart.

Great drive by Alonso....not really much you can say. He was unchallenged the entire race....I wonder how things would have paned out if lewis hadnt gotten ahead of the ferraris? We'll never know...

Cant wait for Bahrain
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 10:23 PM
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what i admire about Hamilton is his aggressiveness and composure.
the 1st few laps reminded me of Senna holding up Prost and Schumi at Silverstone in 93'.
Ferrari should dump Massa asap and try to buy Kubica or Rosbergs contract.
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 10:27 PM
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if this kid shines in the rain, he will be a future multiple champ.
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by honda-guy
Ruben did make good ground considering he started from 19th. I think Jenson is starting to loose his spirits because he is no longer the poster child for England as Hamilton is the new star for Britain.
I concurr with you. The way is happening Lewis Hamilton totally eclipsed Jenson Button by superior driving skills.
We can argue all day long about if Honda or Maclaren have a better car but at the end the Bristish citizens only cares about having a countryman on the podium.

Undeniably lewis Hamilton is doing the job and Jenson isn't. Another remark(straight from the commentators from Speed channel), it looks like there will be a sold out ticket in Silverstone due to Lewis Hamilton highly skills and not soo much for Jenson. In other words, Silverstone will be at its fullest due to Lewis Hamilton success.

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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by nick735
I cant take anything away from hamilton. He did a great job holding off much more experienced drivers (massa and kimi). Even though I think kimi was cruising to preserve his engine, lewis still did a great job at keeping his cool considering "the fastest man on earth" was behing him ( carlos).

IMO massa did two complete newb mistakes. They are barely expected from a rookie, let alone one of the top drivers in the field. I think he was just a little too excited trying to pass lewis.... he needs to learn to be a little more like the iceman and keep his cool. IMO he is a great driver, but not a good racer. He can put a good lap together, but when he has to deal with traffic he just falls apart.

Great drive by Alonso....not really much you can say. He was unchallenged the entire race....I wonder how things would have paned out if lewis hadnt gotten ahead of the ferraris? We'll never know...

Cant wait for Bahrain
Nick,

It looks like Alonso might have a much tougher season than last year despite Schumaker is not in the group anymore.

Kimi vs Alonso? Well, it is going to be a tough one, I think this year the reliability will play a huge role. Assume Alonso to be always in the podium unless someone hits him or he crashes or he breaks the engine.

Just a remark, last race Kimi was saying that he could go even faster if the radio was working and he kind of made a statement insinuating that he could be even faster if it wasn't for the radio issues. Isn't that exactly what happened to Alonso on this race?

Despite my own preferences, I think that Kimi also did a good race and that he is a firm candidate for a world championship, time will tell.

Last but not least Massa. If you ask me how someone wins a championship I will tell you that earning point by point no matter what(better car, better driver,better reliability,better poles,not giving up pole positions overtaking, etc).

My point is Massa can't not afford to let any points escape, you have Drivers like Kimi or Alonso that wouldn't forgive you a mistake. Massa better buckle up and start earning more points.

Carlos
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by evobeaner
what i admire about Hamilton is his aggressiveness and composure.
the 1st few laps reminded me of Senna holding up Prost and Schumi at Silverstone in 93'.
Ferrari should dump Massa asap and try to buy Kubica or Rosbergs contract.
Yea massa has really been a disapointment so far this year. In melbourne he has a difficult time charging his way through the pack when he clearly had the fastest car on the grid. I malaysia we see him try some of the worst passing attempts I have ever seen in F1. During pre season testing a lot of people thought he was going to be faster than kimi, but he just cant keep it together during the race.
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by nick735
Yea massa has really been a disapointment so far this year. In melbourne he has a difficult time charging his way through the pack when he clearly had the fastest car on the grid. I malaysia we see him try some of the worst passing attempts I have ever seen in F1. During pre season testing a lot of people thought he was going to be faster than kimi, but he just cant keep it together during the race.
I agree with you Nick. Felipe Massa showed a big progresion over the last years with Ferrari (since Barrichello left). You could see his progresion last year, then all the sudden Kimi which is someone that is driving a Ferrari for the first time in his life is throwing sand on top of Massa.

I would assume Massa to be a bit more competitive but when your team partner beats you even though is a rookie on Ferrari then it is a problem.

I mentioned in a eraliy post, this season is a season of no mistakes, from what we saw non of the drivers are going to be forgiven for a single point, the competition is tough and neither Kimi, Hamilton or Alonso are going to yield a single point. Massa better pick up the pace, that is all.

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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 09:19 AM
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Lewis, Schumacher, and Senna have/had something very very important that a lot of the other drivers do not have: superior ATHLETIC ability. These three could have been successful, world class athletes in many sports, not unlike tiger woods. They have amazing prioperceptive abilities, vision, physical stamina and courage. They are not the average great driver, but on another level. Does a driver like Kubica or Rosberg have this? No. They are fantastic drivers, but they do not have the one-up secret sauce that the aforementioned three have. Lewis threw Rosberg a beating in Karting and cars. He smashed Rosberg in karts when they both drove for Keke's team. Lewis is definitely not just hype. And you will not see him distracted by hoochies in the club either. He is disciplined, grounded, has had good solid parenting and values transformation. It's exciting to see.
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 09:28 AM
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i am also super impressed with hamilton.....
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 09:51 AM
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If you watched him in GP2 last season you would have seen him drive around foos like they were standing still. This was in a spec. car. Lewis played Massa like a straight BEEATCH, and kept his cool.

That being said it is a new season and time will tell.
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