True on your first statement but not at all on the second part. I not only watch the races but also do extensive reading over the drivers and overall news. The case with Montoya was due to two main issues:
1) Nascar offer him a big money settlement
2) Montoya afirmed that at mid season 2005 he had no chance of compiting for the title and that he wouldn't be happy driving a Formula one car knowing that he couldn't even achieve a world championship

Carlos

 

^^

Carlos

 

No!! Calm down with the BS comments, we are all in this thread to just talk and have fun.
Now, while watching the race we all know Massa screwed up bad and there is no excuse, although all drivers at some point make stupid mistakes. Also, the announcers numerous times STATED!, that Massa fought his way back up front to 6th position from 17th place after his rookie like bumble twice in the same turn as well as other mistakes. So unless Bob Varsha and David Hobbs were grossly, incorrectly, overstating that Massa was coming back from 17th place back up to 6th place, I will gladly take some of that crack right now. Maybe that will ease my embarrassment of David Hobbs making F1 engine sounds with his mouth several times during the race that annoyed the hell out of me. Now where is that crack you are smoking so we can all be happy together and chill?

Calm down dude, neither one of us get paid to analyze this sport so it is all armchair racing and discussion. Ive been watching F1 since the early 70's, so I am pretty into it as well


Peace.


FWIW: Massa defends himself....
http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,189...051264,00.html

 

^^^Daytonevo, I like you dude (One for you and one for me) . Off course, we are cool, like you said, we are here to have fun.

Take care my friend

Carlos

 

i was impressed!

 

Here is a link to the massa vs. hamilton battle on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBegTMCx9yo

 

so any predictions for bahrain?

i really like kubica and i think he will finally have a good weekend without car troubles. i'm thinking 4th or 5th

kimi FTW
hamilton second
massa third alonso 4th

 

Hamilton is a superstar in a super car. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that he is better than most people on the field, and running a McLaren doesn't hurt either.

Watch for Heikki Kovalainen when Renault figures out how to put a winning car on the field again though...I remember when he out-drove Schumacher in a Ferrari once (albeit a 360 Modena) and he also out-drove Sebastien Loeb in a WRC car even though it was his first time even driving one! That kid has raw talent as well...maybe even as much as Hamilton...

 

Totally agree with you. Lewis is good no doubt and the McLaren just makes it even better for him.

I also think that Kovaalainen is good. He just need a little luck.

 

should be a good battle between kimi and alonso now that kimi is on a fresh engine for the next race. hamilton will probably take third, he would set a new record for third podium in the third race.

 

Keep in mind that on the previous 2 tracks, hamilton had now experience. He had driven Bahrain in F3 and test the McLaren there last year I think as well.

I hope Kimi wins. He should considering that he now has a fresh engine...but anything can happen.

 

Just wanted to throw in a quick comment, although I am not a lifelong F1 aficionado like many of you seem to be.

I saw car setup being a major factor as well. It seemed to me that the McLarens had plenty of front grip over the Ferraris. It looked like Massa's car understeered a bit. Couple that with his at times sloppy driving and you have a recipe for an ugly race.

If you noticed, just about every team was adjusting the front wing every stop...perhaps front grip was an issue McLaren had dialed-in to a greater degree than the field? And of course the guys up front certainly drove quite well.

 

I guess that's a good observation although not one I agree with. Massa's car didn't understeer....he overdrove the car. If you go in to any corner too fast and try to make it, the car will wash wide. In contrast Kimi's car didn't show any understeer and was faster than the McLarens at the end of the race when the concerns over his engine lasting weren't so grave.

 

Hmmm...I was pretty sure he was understeering mid-corner most of the race. And he got front wing adjustments every stop I believe. Another evidence would be that Hamilton had enough grip left to quickly alter his line mid corner (When Massa ran wide) to overtake and later fend off Massa. But maybe it was just my imagination...and it's true that they are always adjusting the car.

But of course either way I agree with you that Massa really screwed up a number of times.

 

ethan, i think it had more to do with the downforce the ferraris had vs the mclarens. it was obvious by the straight line speed the ferraris were running less angle of attack then the mclarens. the mclarens as a result were able to take the corners with a bit higher entry speed (as noted by massa attempted the same speed and flying off the track). it was a trade off for that track which could have worked had massa tried passing on the INSIDE of turn one the one time he was side by side at the end of the front straight. that was the only attempt that had potential had he pass on hamiltons right. the other two times hamilton knew massa was coming in way to hot and just let him fly by.