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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 10:16 AM
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Could someone give a good comparison between the DTC60/DTC70 and the ST43? I'm in the market for either.
I'd be interested as well...
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by boomn29
I'd be interested as well...
Based on what i have experienced with the Raybestos pads, and what my friends have experienced with the DTC and Raybestos pads, i would rank them as such, 1 having the most initial bite, higher level of friction, and wear quickest:

1. ST41
2. DTC70
3. ST43

If i want a pad that i know is going to perform well, not create much heat, last very long, and is quite easy on rotors, i would run the 43s. If i want something with more bite, i would consider the 70s, or the 41s. Based off of my experience i know the 41s have tremendous amount of bite, but they dont last, and they are much more aggressive on rotors.
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bueller
Based on what i have experienced with the Raybestos pads, and what my friends have experienced with the DTC and Raybestos pads, i would rank them as such, 1 having the most initial bite, higher level of friction, and wear quickest:

1. ST41
2. DTC70
3. ST43

If i want a pad that i know is going to perform well, not create much heat, last very long, and is quite easy on rotors, i would run the 43s. If i want something with more bite, i would consider the 70s, or the 41s. Based off of my experience i know the 41s have tremendous amount of bite, but they dont last, and they are much more aggressive on rotors.
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4. DTC60.

I ran DTC60s F/R and it was a good combo. Then I switched to ST43 front and they definitely had more initial bite - I was locking the fronts again. I just ordered some 43s for the rear.

Both the DTC60 and the ST43 work surprisingly well on the street. I would say DTC60 dusts a little more.

Personally I prefer less initial bite so I don't have to worry about locking up as much.
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 10:36 PM
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What is the cheapest place to get the ST43?
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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 06:07 AM
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Very good, thank you.

lol, meanmud... yeah my comparo is the best... but unfortunately the most expensive...

Originally Posted by Bueller
Based on what i have experienced with the Raybestos pads, and what my friends have experienced with the DTC and Raybestos pads, i would rank them as such, 1 having the most initial bite, higher level of friction, and wear quickest:

1. ST41
2. DTC70
3. ST43

If i want a pad that i know is going to perform well, not create much heat, last very long, and is quite easy on rotors, i would run the 43s. If i want something with more bite, i would consider the 70s, or the 41s. Based off of my experience i know the 41s have tremendous amount of bite, but they dont last, and they are much more aggressive on rotors.
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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff_Jeske
What is the cheapest place to get the ST43?

Porterfield in Cali
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Old Nov 15, 2008 | 05:12 PM
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I just got their flyer in the mail. I haven't called for pricing yet.
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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Well I called Porterfield tonight and ordered as set of ST43 pads.

Their initial quote for front pads was $261. I then politely asked them if I could get a discount of some kind as that would inspire me to move from my current Carbotech pad to the Raybestos.

With no hassle at all the lady said she could do $247. Not much but enough to cover shipping. I placed the order.

Back in the day I purchased a few sets of R4 pads. I have always liked Porterfield service. I always get a friendly happy to help person.

I hope these pads are as good as everyone claims they are!
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 04:50 PM
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LPI (Livermore Performance) also has excellent prices on race pads. I bought my ST43 rears from them.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 8thWonder
So what is the general consensus for running track or race pads in the front but not in the rear?
I don't know about consensus, but when I tried this the stopping power was okay (with an aggressive street pad in the rear) but the front pads wore much more quickly. It's better and less expensive to run them all the way around.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by EVO8LTW
I don't know about consensus, but when I tried this the stopping power was okay (with an aggressive street pad in the rear) but the front pads wore much more quickly. It's better and less expensive to run them all the way around.
I agree, but just as an FYI - I ran ST43's in the rear as well in August at Barber (normally in front only) and the only issues I had were i blue'd my rear rotors and caused enough vibration to knock the pins out of place in both rear calipers. So my advice as far as prep work, is to remove the rear rotor guard to aid in cooling, or replace the rear stock rotors with better ones. And to also work out some kind if retaining clip for the rear pins as has been discussed on here before.
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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 11:13 AM
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Thanks for the help guys. I've priced some ST43s myself.
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