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Old May 25, 2010 | 12:00 AM
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Elaborate, super solid wing mounts to the chassis are standard for any semi-serious race car. Embarrassing that the Cyber Evo has all that development and then skimps on something so integral.

That Lotus looks hellacious to drive. Half the turns are spent countersteering.

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Old May 25, 2010 | 12:22 AM
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That lotus looks like fun to drive!! Perfect ratios!
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Old May 25, 2010 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Bnjmn
Elaborate, super solid wing mounts to the chassis are standard for any semi-serious race car. Embarrassing that the Cyber Evo has all that development and then skimps on something so integral.

That Lotus looks hellacious to drive. Half the turns are spent countersteering.
Don't forget that's also half the reason it's so fast. Weight is the only thing you can modify with your car that improves all aspects of performance. Every ounce not there for strength is gone in the name of speed.

If the cyber evo went into a cement wall and the SSE evo went into the same wall, I guarantee one driver would be in a lot better shape than the other. The rules for cage integrity are two very different things between something like a FIA cert cage vs a Japanese Time Attack Legal cage.

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Old May 25, 2010 | 01:55 AM
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Old May 25, 2010 | 10:25 AM
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So all talk of safety.. I am curious. Europe(and the U.S I would think) use FIA Regulations for safety, Australia uses CAMS. So what do the Japanese use for safety regulations... like Super GT?
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Old May 25, 2010 | 11:44 AM
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so all talk of safety.. I am curious. Europe(and the u.s i would think) use fia regulations for safety, australia uses cams. So what do the japanese use for safety regulations... Like super gt?
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Old May 25, 2010 | 12:05 PM
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Seems to me that the Japanese Time Attack cars use the Kamikaze safety regulations.



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Old May 25, 2010 | 10:03 PM
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Seems to me that the Japanese Time Attack cars use the Kamikaze safety regulations.



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Old May 25, 2010 | 10:10 PM
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Yes, that is the CT230R.

We don't know what material that is, what wall thickness it is etc...

A lot more to a cage then a bunch of bars.

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Old May 26, 2010 | 10:11 AM
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That was one of my first thoughts after seeing the CT230R, the Cusco/Tomei STI and the Cyber EVO...

Would any of these cars pass our safety inspection? Our Managing Director of Competition doesn't think so. This may prevent these cars from competing in Redline Time Attack sanctioned events. We're pretty much forced by our insurance company to implement and enforce safety regs. It's in the best interest of everyone, especially the drivers.
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Old May 26, 2010 | 01:59 PM
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Heh..... that's not a safety cage, that's chassis bracing! Doesn't look like there's any side impact protection at all. Can't tell what's going on at the A-pillars either, but it doesn't look very substantial to prevent a collapse in roll-over.
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Old May 26, 2010 | 04:33 PM
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That was one of my first thoughts after seeing the CT230R, the Cusco/Tomei STI and the Cyber EVO...

Would any of these cars pass our safety inspection? Our Managing Director of Competition doesn't think so. This may prevent these cars from competing in Redline Time Attack sanctioned events. We're pretty much forced by our insurance company to implement and enforce safety regs. It's in the best interest of everyone, especially the drivers.
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Old May 26, 2010 | 10:12 PM
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Those belts are a good setup...for spinal injuries.
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Old May 27, 2010 | 12:13 AM
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Japan time attack does not have rules nor safety inspection to speak of. There is no one sanctioning body. There are a few and a few events here and there on different tracks. People are just kind of tracking the records in their heads. Just like the US.

The cage tube on the HKS evo I dont know the wall thickness but the OD is very small. Smaller than anything that would pass tech in the US.

Japan doesn't have tech because there arent stupid lawsuits when people knowingly take place in dangerous sports. With that said I leave the decision about safety to car owners and drivers. They are risking far more than I am if I design it.

How much power is the SSE evo making? They've done a great job with that car.

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Old May 27, 2010 | 01:52 AM
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The SSE is making in the neighborhood of 600-700whp...
Good to see you made your way over to our humble home Drew
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