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Old Jul 30, 2018, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ayoustin
I've got a 20mm in the front to clear the spring. Could probably get away with a 10 or 15 but pushing it further out gives more steering angle before rubbing the frame rail, just barely rubs a hair at full lock with a 20mm. They clear the calipers without the spacers.

3mm in the rear to clear trailing arm, getting rid of the spacer as soon as I get my new trailing arms.
All that outboard width and a 20mm spacer? Dang.

Forgot to mention this is on a IX..
Old Jul 30, 2018, 04:41 PM
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My fenders are spaced out ~1-1.25" and are rolled flat. No issues with rubbing on street or track (they rub at autox but I've given up on doing that in this car) but there's a fair amount of chipped paint and both fenders are cracked, NCE.
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Old Jul 31, 2018, 07:29 AM
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On my IX I had to run 25mm spacer in front to clear the spring and perch and a 3 or 5mm spacer in the rear to clear the stock trailing arm.
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Originally Posted by RJones
On my IX I had to run 25mm spacer in front to clear the spring and perch and a 3 or 5mm spacer in the rear to clear the stock trailing arm.
Yours seemed to be a bit of a special case with the Motons though. They seem to have the worst tire clearance of any strut I've seen so far. Not sure if the mounting ears are just shorter or what, but if you ever get it back together I can make you a custom strut mount to push the strut further in and give more clearance. Mine, for example, are 12mm longer than OEM and 6mm longer than the standard SSB mounts. You may even have more space we can reclaim depending on the Moton design.
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Originally Posted by ayoustin
My fenders are spaced out ~1-1.25" and are rolled flat. No issues with rubbing on street or track (they rub at autox but I've given up on doing that in this car) but there's a fair amount of chipped paint and both fenders are cracked, NCE.
I admit I don't care what my car looks like.. but not sure I can go that far with it Maybe if I got some crappy Fiberglass fenders, or something.
**edit.. If you think you can get by with a smaller spacer, and taking into account what DallasJ says about your Motons... Maybe I can by with a 5mm (or none?) spacer.. that wouldn't be too bad.

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Old Jul 31, 2018, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by kaj
I admit I don't care what my car looks like.. but not sure I can go that far with it Maybe if I got some crappy Fiberglass fenders, or something.
**edit.. If you think you can get by with a smaller spacer, and taking into account what DallasJ says about your Motons... Maybe I can by with a 5mm (or none?) spacer.. that wouldn't be too bad.
I have Ohlins. Like I said, you might be able to squeak by with a 10mm.

My car is not and never will be a show car so I don't really care about what happens to the paint. Also since the fenders are made of aluminum I don't care if they lose paint since they won't rust.
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Originally Posted by ayoustin
I have Ohlins. Like I said, you might be able to squeak by with a 10mm.

My car is not and never will be a show car so I don't really care about what happens to the paint. Also since the fenders are made of aluminum I don't care if they lose paint since they won't rust.
10 mm could be doable. I was using 20mm on RPFs, so losing 10 mm on the spacer would help.
As for the looks of our cars, I cut into my hood and JDM bumper to make things work, so no show car here ,either. Ain't skurred.
I just don't want cracked body parts is all. 😁
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Haha my fenders are only cracked because the PO decided to roll the inner lip flat instead of cutting it. Definitely doable without cracking.
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So cutting is the way to go? I don't mind that. Also, I have a guy that will repaint for $100 If I mess it up LOL
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You likely won't have any rubbing issues on the front fender lip.

My 17x10 +38 with 255/40's and 20mm spacer actually poked in the front at -3 camber. Didn't rub..
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Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
You likely won't have any rubbing issues on the front fender lip.

My 17x10 +38 with 255/40's and 20mm spacer actually poked in the front at -3 camber. Didn't rub..
I'm remaining hopeful, but preparing for the worst LOL. My math tells me:
My 9.5 +38 RPFs had room inboard with a 20mm spacer.
A 10.5 +30 with 5mm spacer puts the inside exactly where the 9.5 wheel was, but outboard 26mm!
If I do not need the 5mm on the inside to clear brakes or coilovers (I'm 99% sure my RPFs had more than 5mm of clearance, running cam bolt on the knuckle in the "out" position), then that helps a lot. That puts the outside of the wheel only 21mm out. I just get nervous because it looks like I was close to rubbing with the 9.5s.

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Spacing the fender out gives a lot more room, you won't be able to fit a 10.5 up front without it or aftermarket fenders.
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Originally Posted by ayoustin
Spacing the fender out gives a lot more room, you won't be able to fit a 10.5 up front without it or aftermarket fenders.
Not true on both accounts.

Spacing the fender moves the rear of the fender. I made very aggressive spacers on my car, its more than an inch in the rear spacer. Measuring to a hard point in the fender well, that translated to less than 1/4" at the center of the wheel. I had to do a ton of extra pulling to get the fenders out after that. I was already pulled ~3/4" in just stretched fenders but still had to put a bar between the tire and fender to pull it more and more. I guess Im saying just the spacer wont do it alone, but it does help at least some.

And to fit 10.5" wheels up front, I was able to do it with 295s and just heavily pulled but not spaced fenders. The trick was my uprights push the strut further inboard and I ran a short enough spring to set the tire right next to the strut. So I played a lot with wheel spacer size and camber settings both at strut and top to get it all exactly where I wanted it. It makes 285s look like a walk in the park.

Then I switch to a setup where I couldnt put the tire beside the strut body and had to put it next to the spring (same as Ayoustin runs, ohlin flags). That now requires 3/4" more clearance to fit. Thats when I got even more creative. Even more fender stretching, even longer strut mount, and finally spacing the fender.


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Not exactly sure how your spacer setup is but I have spacers on the front and rear of the fender and bumper. My fenders aren't pulled, er at least they don't look pulled to me.

For the small cost it takes to make the spacers I think they're worth it, more space in the wheel well is always worth it. I'll have to be in touch with you about a custom offset knuckle like you've got. I'd like to get as much space as possible without having to spacer the fender even further, end goal being fitting a 315 up front.
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Ahh, if you spaced the front then that definitely would help. I looked at doing that but seemed like it really messed with the fit on headlight. My strut mounts are aggressive for sure. Its about 3mm from tire to spring and maybe 6mm to the fender inside wall.


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