50/50 or lighter weight?
^Yeah but if you're WOT chances are the car is going straight at that point or at the very least pointing in the right direction and you are powering out so where the benefit in the 50/50 at that point? Seems like as long as you have traction the car will accelerate the same regardless of distribution.
I'd think its the steady state cornering or the initial set when turning in where the main benefit would be...maybe that still is the case and you're simply trying to come up with a clever way of saying the evo can be 50/50
Either way my car is a pig and she needs to go on a diet badly. But she is still a streetcar so its a balance. But Im also starting with the most street friendly least track friendly variant, ugh.
I still don't understand how some folks are sub 3000# and its still a street car. What gives? No sound deadening no AC crap like that seems like its no longer a street car IMO. Sure if can be driven on the street but my car is friggin loud enough and I can barely talk on the phone as is so I can't fathom how some of these cars have supposedly full interior and work on the street.
I'd think its the steady state cornering or the initial set when turning in where the main benefit would be...maybe that still is the case and you're simply trying to come up with a clever way of saying the evo can be 50/50
Either way my car is a pig and she needs to go on a diet badly. But she is still a streetcar so its a balance. But Im also starting with the most street friendly least track friendly variant, ugh.
I still don't understand how some folks are sub 3000# and its still a street car. What gives? No sound deadening no AC crap like that seems like its no longer a street car IMO. Sure if can be driven on the street but my car is friggin loud enough and I can barely talk on the phone as is so I can't fathom how some of these cars have supposedly full interior and work on the street.
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Only reason I said anything about 50/50 was just to point out that under accel (the primary goal of an AWD car, right?) you probably are actually loading the tires 50/50...
FWIW, my car before the last go around was 2950.
Looked full interior and was SM legal with 275s on 18x9.5s. I didn't spend much making it lighter, primarily just removing stuff and picking light parts when replacing the normal stuff anyway. I think 2850 is pretty doable for an SM legal "Street car" with reasonable expense if you don't mind terrible amounts of noise and harshness. lol
FWIW, my car before the last go around was 2950.
Looked full interior and was SM legal with 275s on 18x9.5s. I didn't spend much making it lighter, primarily just removing stuff and picking light parts when replacing the normal stuff anyway. I think 2850 is pretty doable for an SM legal "Street car" with reasonable expense if you don't mind terrible amounts of noise and harshness. lol
I also don't have to fit into any classes, so I'm unlimited there, which saves me a lot of stress LOL.
Car is built for fun and lap times, I just run in whichever class they tell me. Usually it's Limited, but may have to bump to Unlimited if I remove more interior pieces.
My car is pretty much a drum. I wear ear plugs when I drive to the track LOL
I still don't understand how some folks are sub 3000# and its still a street car. What gives? No sound deadening no AC crap like that seems like its no longer a street car IMO. Sure if can be driven on the street but my car is friggin loud enough and I can barely talk on the phone as is so I can't fathom how some of these cars have supposedly full interior and work on the street.
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Getting into the sub-3000's is a different story but a low 3000's street car can be accomplished with the right selection of parts; it'll be expensive but it can be done. The well-prepped STU cars can get into the low 3000's and class rules prohibit interior removal, AC removal, emissions removal, stereo removal, sound deadening removal, etc. I won't get into specifics but my STU-prepped IX MR is mid-3000's and that's with big 18x10 RPF1's, 265 tires, and stock seats. With a 5-speed, aftermarket seats, and smaller or lighter wheels & tires, it would easily be in the low-3000 range.
I guess if I had a ton of money I could do tubular subframes, two-piece brake rotors, etc.
Easy weight loss = remove AC (if you don't live somewhere hot), add 2 bucket front seats (the stock Recaros are actually pretty heavy), smaller battery, titanium exhaust, lighter wheels, aluminum coilovers, remove spare tire/jack, replace the pressed steel US crash beams with tubular ones.
After that, just msg Bushur & STM about additional weight reduction pieces for the evo.
After that, just msg Bushur & STM about additional weight reduction pieces for the evo.
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Easy weight loss = remove AC (if you don't live somewhere hot), add 2 bucket front seats (the stock Recaros are actually pretty heavy), smaller battery, titanium exhaust, lighter wheels, aluminum coilovers, remove spare tire/jack, replace the pressed steel US crash beams with tubular ones.
After that, just msg Bushur & STM about additional weight reduction pieces for the evo.
After that, just msg Bushur & STM about additional weight reduction pieces for the evo.
), trunk is empty, still have crash beams, though. dropping 100lbs is gonna be tough.
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I'll check them out! I'm 5'6", 180lbs, 32" waist so I'm thinking should fit like baby bear.
Our cars come from the factory low 3000s, so yeah that would be pretty easy. My car is 3100 pounds right now with the trunk emptied out and carpet , rear door cards, and headliner removed. I honestly don't think removing interior parts helped much as they are pretty light. I also can't figure a way to lose another hundred pounds without making the car miserable to drive, such as no air conditioning (100°+ summers here). I don't daily the car so I'm not worried about noise or other inconveniences, but no way do I drive that same hundred degree heat with no AC. LOL I guess if I had a ton of money I could do tubular subframes, two-piece brake rotors, etc.
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I have an MR. 3100 after removing interior and swapping some stuff. Still have crash beams, though. And AC and stereo.
It's 95F-105F from mid June to mid September here and I don't think I've had a car with A/C in 15 years. Sissies. 4-40 (4 windows down, 40mph) takes care of it pretty easily.
Although, in fairness, it is like 15% humidity here. 85F in Florida with 100% humidity felt WAY hotter.
A stock IX RS (with no A/C or radio....aka a REAL RS) is probably just barely over 3000lbs.
Although, in fairness, it is like 15% humidity here. 85F in Florida with 100% humidity felt WAY hotter.
A stock IX RS (with no A/C or radio....aka a REAL RS) is probably just barely over 3000lbs.
There's posts on here with people reporting 3050 on IX RS and if you look at some of the weights posted in relation to what's been done on the cars, it backs it up. But then there's 3420lb RS's so... Don't know.
I know when I test drove an IX RS with 17 miles on it, it sure felt about as light as my car was at 2950. But different cars, new tires, different alignment...etc. Hard to say. Still wish I had bought that RS though, $26,000 out the door in early 2007 as they were trying to clear them out.
I know when I test drove an IX RS with 17 miles on it, it sure felt about as light as my car was at 2950. But different cars, new tires, different alignment...etc. Hard to say. Still wish I had bought that RS though, $26,000 out the door in early 2007 as they were trying to clear them out.
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There's posts on here with people reporting 3050 on IX RS and if you look at some of the weights posted in relation to what's been done on the cars, it backs it up. But then there's 3420lb RS's so... Don't know.
I know when I test drove an IX RS with 17 miles on it, it sure felt about as light as my car was at 2950. But different cars, new tires, different alignment...etc. Hard to say. Still wish I had bought that RS though, $26,000 out the door in early 2007 as they were trying to clear them out.
I know when I test drove an IX RS with 17 miles on it, it sure felt about as light as my car was at 2950. But different cars, new tires, different alignment...etc. Hard to say. Still wish I had bought that RS though, $26,000 out the door in early 2007 as they were trying to clear them out.