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Sep 21, 2018, 06:19 AM
#106
On another note. I installed the cusco front sway bar bracket(using stock fsb) and it def felt like a positive, very neutral handling. It's too early to have an overall impression but from my last autocross with it I believe it was a net positive since it was a pretty miata friendly tight course and I placed pretty well. Am running 10/12.5k springs and I still got a ton of front body roll and from what everyone always says, that adding more front bar/spring would cause more understeer. But I never really looked at bodyroll and camber curve so I'm not 100% sure but I think having a little less body roll is keeping the camber a little more happy with the little less of roll the bracket is providing. Now I'm thinking about putting 11k springs up front since I have a set of those just sitting in the garage to get a tiny bit less body roll.
Sep 21, 2018, 08:47 AM
#107
On another note. I installed the cusco front sway bar bracket(using stock fsb) and it def felt like a positive, very neutral handling. It's too early to have an overall impression but from my last autocross with it I believe it was a net positive since it was a pretty miata friendly tight course and I placed pretty well. Am running 10/12.5k springs and I still got a ton of front body roll and from what everyone always says, that adding more front bar/spring would cause more understeer. But I never really looked at bodyroll and camber curve so I'm not 100% sure but I think having a little less body roll is keeping the camber a little more happy with the little less of roll the bracket is providing. Now I'm thinking about putting 11k springs up front since I have a set of those just sitting in the garage to get a tiny bit less body roll.
Also, I made adjustable endlinks for my sway bars. It seemed to make the car a bit more stable.
Sep 21, 2018, 09:01 AM
#108
Just by conventional setup wisdom, any added front bias will shift the portion of total weight transfer forward so it should absolutely increase understeer unless you have some pretty drastic geometry issues (ala stock class cars or super low evos). If you go up in front spring should probably be matched in rear spring or bar which you can pretty well treat the same for balance.
Sep 21, 2018, 12:30 PM
#109
Just by conventional setup wisdom, any added front bias will shift the portion of total weight transfer forward so it should absolutely increase understeer unless you have some pretty drastic geometry issues (ala stock class cars or super low evos). If you go up in front spring should probably be matched in rear spring or bar which you can pretty well treat the same for balance.
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Sep 21, 2018, 01:34 PM
#111
On a side note: during the last event I attended I wore the left rear WAAAAAAAAAAAAY more than the right. I think I was spinning it on the series of tight L-hand turns. The RR looks almost new. Damn it.
Sep 21, 2018, 01:45 PM
#112
You know I sorta get that feeling where it sometimes wants to push or sometimes wants to kick back out on heavy throttle. In my case it really seems to push if I try to get on the throttle later but faster, and rotates better if Im in the throttle back near apex and just keeping enough throttle for what the corner can take. So by exit im full throttle but Ive worked up to it.
Not sure that makes too much sense typing it, but it at least prevents the throttle push moments.
Not sure that makes too much sense typing it, but it at least prevents the throttle push moments.
Sep 21, 2018, 02:05 PM
#113
You know I sorta get that feeling where it sometimes wants to push or sometimes wants to kick back out on heavy throttle. In my case it really seems to push if I try to get on the throttle later but faster, and rotates better if Im in the throttle back near apex and just keeping enough throttle for what the corner can take. So by exit im full throttle but Ive worked up to it.
Not sure that makes too much sense typing it, but it at least prevents the throttle push moments.
Not sure that makes too much sense typing it, but it at least prevents the throttle push moments.
Sep 21, 2018, 02:10 PM
#114
At Solo Nats when I was helping KJ figure out the driving style the car liked that was something we talked about quite a bit. He had the same issue with tight corner exits was causing a lot of pushing instead of front biting and back moving. He's of course use to something waaay different (A-mod) but I'd come out of same corner with back end swinging.
He's a great driver though so he was able to get it figured out on the real courses .
He's a great driver though so he was able to get it figured out on the real courses .
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Nov 28, 2018, 12:18 PM
#115
fun, i missed this!
happiness: medium, car is still too pushy for me, hence the setup changes
LGTD, car rotating off throttle or on hard throttle but pushing on maintenance I think is just the nature of a salisbury diff + 60/40 weight, right?
- ohlins dfv, 8k/10k, cirodesign caster/camber coilovers
- superpro lca bushing for added caster, rear trailing arm bushing, roll center adjuster, precision steering kit
- tanabe hollow fsb in front, whiteline 24mm in rear on full stiff, just swapped to 26mm whiteline, haven't tried it out yet
- english racing acd on "2/3" aggressive (full aggressive gave me 3 lights), set to most aggressive (loose) for racing
- cusco 1.5-way rear, swapping to os giken
- alignment: -3.3, -1.9, ~5 degrees of caster and 0 toe
happiness: medium, car is still too pushy for me, hence the setup changes
LGTD, car rotating off throttle or on hard throttle but pushing on maintenance I think is just the nature of a salisbury diff + 60/40 weight, right?
Dec 25, 2018, 05:27 PM
#116
The nt03 comes in +40, so you could run them with a 25mm spacer in front and a 5mm spacer in the rear. My 18s are in the closet right now, but I’m pretty happy with the Wedsport TC105N in 18x9.5 +35, except the cost of 18” tires. For less money (and more weight), there is also the 5zigen fn01rc in 18x9.5 +35 (I had those back in 2005-2006). Both of those have good caliper clearance. I’m sticking with using my 17x9.5 +38 nt03s for now because 17” tires are so much cheaper and I’d rather work on driving/suspension/aero first.
Dec 25, 2018, 09:37 PM
#118
I've decided between the 18x9.5 +35 or the 18x9 +32. For now intentions are to just run the 265s. But being the price of the wheels are the same, if the extra half an inch would be worth it, I'd rather go with the wider option....
Last edited by Crankwalker; Dec 25, 2018 at 10:08 PM.
Dec 26, 2018, 03:46 AM
#119
I'm currently still on stock struts with Hotchkis springs, do you think the spacer would still be needed with a 265/35?
I've decided between the 18x9.5 +35 or the 18x9 +32. For now intentions are to just run the 265s. But being the price of the wheels are the same, if the extra half an inch would be worth it, I'd rather go with the wider option....
I've decided between the 18x9.5 +35 or the 18x9 +32. For now intentions are to just run the 265s. But being the price of the wheels are the same, if the extra half an inch would be worth it, I'd rather go with the wider option....
Dec 26, 2018, 07:04 AM
#120