Interesting, can't find any "actual" availability dates though or prices.

 

The individual I have quoted works for TireRack. I also had a guy that works at a dealership call his suppliers and can't get exact dates. I'd assume something will happen in the next days/weeks if what he said is true. I'm definitely ordering a set if they offer it in the 285 variety initially...

 

Think it'll be that much quicker then a052's?

 

Honestly, that's the million dollar question and I'm unsure anyone can say at this point. Bridgestone came out and said it was about 6 tenths quicker around tsukuba circuit than the outgoing RE71R.

I'm HOPING these tires heat cycle better than the old RE71R, which at half life, normally was falling off in grip. I'm just glad there's another 285mm tire offering that hopefully can compete with the A052.

I believe Grassroots said they'll have testing in the near future.

 

A052 is a bit of a magical tire that will be hard to fully beat. The new RE might stand a chance in some aspects, but A052 has a magical combination of cold, wet, and concrete performance. Of course heat and life is its struggle but for competition it will be hard to beat.

 

I'm hoping the Nankang gives me all that (fingers crossed) in a 285 width. Or Yok could just make a 285 damnit.

 

Agreed and it'll be interesting to see how this tire plays out. This is my biggest concern going into 2022...and NOT running on the A052... I've read a lot of praises for the Nankang as well and how similar it feels compared to the Yok, but time will tell! If worse comes to worse, I could always go back to a 265 or 275 A052. Hell, '21 nationals was won on 255 A052s.....

Agreed on both accounts. WHY can't Yokohama just come out with a damn 285.

 

My TR rep called back on 265's. 1st 25 due in Indiana June 1, 19 left on pre-orders.

So we won't see these till mid June earliest I think. My wholesale price is in the upper 200's so retail will likely be in the 300-360 range.

 

The Nankang needs at least some heat before it start working though not as much as the RT660. Dont know how they work in the wet or on concrete also.

 

Do you get wholesale pricing on Yokohamas?

 

One other interesting datapoint was STX's winning time was (121.6) about the same as STU's winning time (121.6) - http://sololive.scca.com/NT/STX.php - Lenworth is the driver who had top PAX at the first DC event this year (mid 30s for temperature, I outrawed him but not by enough). You are right though, the theoretical best time in STU would have been faster if you combine the two days.

I don't know much about STR - Marcus did have a top PAX in DC last year in July and is usually up there PAX wise. It was in the 40's for temperature, so probably pretty good Yoko weather (but everyone was on Yokos). Pat Salerno is an Evo instructor, I think he has jackets, etc but I don't know the state of prep for his car. Same for Tim Aro, I think he has a CSP jacket.

I wonder what a full prep CTR would weigh in STU? What tires can they fit up front? I also wonder how long it is til we see a full prep FoRS. A little heavier than the Evo/STi but comes with more power stock and possibly a better stock set of differentials.

I'm dropping off my car next week for shorter springs/alignment but still not planning on running 285s this year while I get the car dialed in and try to have a "getting back into the swing of things" kind of year.

 

Thanks for the insight! I know, it's bench racing, but it is interesting to view data points throughout the year. Man, if it was that cold out, you'd think the evo would have an advantage vs it's STU counterparts on days like that!

I can't recall exactly who I was talking to, but the CTR weighs around 3050 stock - which is definitely lighter to begin with than the Evo 8/9 and obviously 10. I'd assume they would get into the 27XX-28XX range with full prep? I think I'm in the high 29XX range currently, but haven't weighed it since the last round of minor mods.

I swear I also read a thread about a STU type build for the Type R that was pushing upwards of 400whp. I believe I mentioned this before, but I supposedly there was one on the NE coast that ran a 315mm all the way around on 11" wheels in STU/SP trim. Uncertain if that is a myth or if it's the truth. Maybe it was the same car that was competing at that event? Although I found on RRX the car that was competing at this event was actually running a 295/255 combo,

More power, more tire, less weight than the evo. I wonder how "well" that FWD would put down 400ish whp though...?

 

https://www.civicx.com/forum/threads...-400whp.24588/
https://www.civicx.com/forum/threads...ptp-usr.30111/
https://nationalspeedinc.com/2019-ho...pe-r-bolt-ons/

Kinda looks like ~375 whp is possible with stock fuel / 93 octane / ST legal mods. I mean, every dyno is different and all that. But that does sound like pretty solid power to weight. My car was 3085 with 17x9s and 245s so I'm probably slightly over 3100 on the current wheel / tire setup (plus I have a normal battery now) - that's a 6 speed but even with a 5 speed swap and all available mods that I haven't done, maybe 3025 lbs.

A 315 Yoko and a good diff would put down power pretty well I would guess. It looks like the FK8 CTR is four inches wider than an Evo though:

https://www.edmunds.com/honda/civic/2021/type-r/



https://www.edmunds.com/mitsubishi/l...eatures-specs/

The CTR just looks like a fun car to own overall.

 

Good information and thanks for sharing! I didn't realize that car was 4 inches wider than our beloved evos.


Spring Nationals in Lincoln is open for registration. So far in STU we only have 6 signed up. I'll probably have a co-driver so 7. Hoping to see a few more faces out there from CO and other regions. Time will tell. I know we've lost a couple of bigger names in STU - hopefully this class holds strong again for '22.

https://www.motorsportreg.com/index....84B593DC73F3B3https://www.motorsportreg.com/index....84B593DC73F3B3

 

RE71RS tires are showing up on TireRack's website, however, the majority (if not all) are showing as 6/1/22 expected dates.....Sounds like they will be updating the dates on their site soon.
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...71RS&tab=Sizes