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It this is your first performance car? I am new to the autox/hpde element of driving also. In my opinion I would get used to driving the car in a normal manor, as you were saying you are trying to smooth out your driving. Auto cross is a great place to learn car control and pushing your car under 65mph. HPDE/track days are a lot of fun, I did my first on this past summer. A good instructor is key to keeping you and your car in one piece. At njmp you need to be comfortable with your driving and car so all inputs are smooth and executed precisely because at 120+mph things happen very quick. There are some very skilled drivers in here and they will have some better advise for you. FTW means For-The-Whiteman.
also- your post about looking for a place with a skid pad and a place to push your car that is not on a closed course probably is not the best idea if you are still trying to learn to DD an evo.
also- your post about looking for a place with a skid pad and a place to push your car that is not on a closed course probably is not the best idea if you are still trying to learn to DD an evo.
NASA(expensive), PCA(awesome), BMWCCA(blah), TrackDaze(awesome), EMRA. There are a ton others that I can't remember that Honduh-boy instructs with, such as FATT.
TrackDaze and PCA for-the-whiteman. :thumbsup:
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FATT just stands for "Fridays at the track". It's a summit point thing.
There is also hooked on driving but they are also expensive.
Marc knows of many others but the preferential ones were mentioned. The Audi chapters down here aren't as active as new England and upstate new York chapters from what I gathered.
There is also hooked on driving but they are also expensive.
Marc knows of many others but the preferential ones were mentioned. The Audi chapters down here aren't as active as new England and upstate new York chapters from what I gathered.
if you have still adjusting to the car, i would recommend not getting on track yet. try out some local autox. it's close, it's cheap and tons of good drivers there that can give you good advice, and most of all, it's safe. once you are comfortable with the car at limits, then go hit the track and have fun.
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I did like 3 autox events total before my first track day.
I haven't done it as much as everyone else but I don't see that much of a parallel between the two. Some of the concepts are the same but I think it's apples and oranges. Maybe it's just because I received more instruction on the track than I have in autox.
There is no denying the amount of seat time being more beneficial for track days. I find it hard to learn anything in 3-4 50 second runs. Yeah there's the novice school but I prefer lapping lap after lap trying to hit my mark then have 4-5 more sessions to work on it.
I haven't done it as much as everyone else but I don't see that much of a parallel between the two. Some of the concepts are the same but I think it's apples and oranges. Maybe it's just because I received more instruction on the track than I have in autox.
There is no denying the amount of seat time being more beneficial for track days. I find it hard to learn anything in 3-4 50 second runs. Yeah there's the novice school but I prefer lapping lap after lap trying to hit my mark then have 4-5 more sessions to work on it.
you can drive 10/10 or over at autox and walk away. try that at the track and you might get away with it once or twice. autox is about getting comfortable with the car and knowing it's limits, and you can do it in a safe environment. if you think you know the limits of your car, let a pro drive it and it will open your eyes.
you can drive 10/10 or over at autox and walk away. try that at the track and you might get away with it once or twice. autox is about getting comfortable with the car and knowing it's limits, and you can do it in a safe environment. if you think you know the limits of your car, let a pro drive it and it will open your eyes.
I was like how is he driving this like he going to the store.
you can drive 10/10 or over at autox and walk away. try that at the track and you might get away with it once or twice. autox is about getting comfortable with the car and knowing it's limits, and you can do it in a safe environment. if you think you know the limits of your car, let a pro drive it and it will open your eyes.
As for the comparison, its definitely not apples to apples, but autox does put you in a position to learn the car's limitations, while being safe. I learned alot about weight transfer, setting up for entry and exit, and feeling over/understeer from autox. Most importantly though, I learned to look ahead. As I've gotten faster in autox, things have slowed down a bit, and that also has transferred over to how comfortable I feel in the driver's seat on a road course.
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