My car isn't set up for TT. I gotz stock struts and aftermarker springs, stock sways, stock VIII turbo... Your car fully prepared, mad aero, mad power, just a slow driver.

 

there's class for every car and setup in TT. you can run TTB. dont be a bioch. you can even run street tires if you want to be a little ho like alwaystooslow

 

Thai should let you co-drive his car couple events. Wonder who would win... In fact all you guys should work that out somehow so you could settle who the real Pro is, take car prep variable out of it.

Take Shoe and I, he knows I am the Pro out of the 2 of us Autoxing his car. Come at meh
I will say he was coming on strong towards the end there and probably will totally school me this year.

 

You are the Pro of the 2... second place that is

 

We've had this discussion before. Not that it matters, but your car is better setup to take advantage of rcomps. You have less weight, more aero, more power and better rcomp tires. With all those advantages you should have beaten me by way more than a couple seconds... funny how once you take away the extra grip rcomps provide you're somehow slower than a heavier, less powerful, stock aero, stock turbo car.

Why you gotta hate on RTA or street tire classes? Aren't you just mad RTA didn't invite you to the ROC event cause you're not a champion. GTA has street tire class too, I guess we'll see if you are able to beat me next year at lightning. All I know is you better run faster than 14.7 there if you're on anything other than 'beat xs tires'. Come at meh!

I've offered this to honda-ghey, but he won't accept. I suggested we each drive each other cars at an autox course, that way nobody has an advantage of knowning the course ahead of time and we can see who's the faster driver. All I got was mad excuses, as expected. He claims he'll beat me by two seconds, but from what I recall at the last autox he and I did I whooped him by like 8 seconds on a 30 second course.

 

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Kinda funny you guys offer someone's care, but not your own. LOL

 

Rental cars yo! Pads and a fluid change, then have at it.

 

my car better setup? is that why your car would classify higher than my car with NASA rules? my car was TTA and your car classify in TTS. my 5 years old coilovers vs. your $4k ohlins Flags, and you have sway bars, perrin psrs. and you also had the front splitter at monticello, not stock fool. so you beat me by 1 seconds with tires that are supposed to be as fast as NT01 rcomp (according to P-A), on a track where i wasn't even trying to put down a good time on street tries as i was trying figure the lines and then put everything together on the last session but they canceled the last session.

i have better power to weight ratio? ask Grillo how many times he pulled on me on the highway. and i have video of you pulling on me on the straight at monticello. your power/weight excuse doesn't work there son.

i have better rcomp? at thunder and monti, we both ran same size A6. actually, you even have a better setup as your wheels were 10" and mine were 9.5". my hoosier were even older than yours, they were used one that chu that was 3 years old. your tires excuse dont work there son.

so you want to see who's faster on "track" by doing an autox competition? why not just do a competition on GT5, or see who can eat a bow of Pho faster. who ever finish first is the fastest guy on "track"

autox and track is two different discipline. i admit that autox requires more than just driving skills. you have to visualize the track because it's just a sea of cones, and you have to memorize a track with 50+ turn in just 4 laps. those two skills alone (not even driving) is worth more than any driving skills. even the best track driver still get lost on an autox course. i respect the people who are good at it. autox has it's values and that's why i started out with autox and still do it when my schedule permit.

all i know is i dropped kicked your *** in kart wednesday and you had more time at that track, and it's not the first time i beat chu at kart. i would say kart is more comparable to autox than autox to track.

put your money where your mouth is. i'll put $100 down for GTA street class if all you want to do is compete in street tires class. if you want to play with the big boys, put your rcomp on and run NASA and NARRA TT3 next year. com at meh bioch

 

i don't doubt that Pete would be as fast as me or faster eventually, but i've ridden with him and i know he's not there yet (no disrespect homie). you need seat time to be comfortable driving at limits on track, it's not like autox where you can jump in a car for the first time and drive 10/10th and just run over some cones if you fu(k up. if you eff up on track, it's life and death. there's nothing that can replace seat time and experience. he's probably faster than me at autox cause he does it on a regular base and he often beat me at kart, and im sure he'll catch up to my pace on track soon.

but i don't see anyone offering their car up for me to compete and compare times. isn't it arrive and drive? not arrive and drive Thai's car.

as far as competition without prep variable, that's stupid. in any motorsport competition, preparation is worth more than any driver skillz. teams spend more money on preparation then to pay for a top driver. if we're competing, it's about the total package.

 

Oh me gee

 

Fool you is crazy! Yes, your car is much better setup. Mod for mod your car is better prepped than mine without a doubt. You have more mods than probably anyone in PCD. I have a full weight, full interior, bone stock car with OEM everything running 20-22psi with only an air filter, exhaust and I'm even running a cat. I can't even keep track of all your mods but from what I remember its SD, 4" intake, IC pipes, FMIC, ported manifold, o2 housing, aftermarket turbo, aftermarket splitter, aftermarket side skirts, aftermarket wing, aftermarket IC pipes, more boost, lightweight battery, injectors, no cat, gutted interior, 6-point roll bar, lightweight fixed back seats, 6-point harnesses, gold foil errwhere and the list goes on.

I also like how when I'm beating you its cause all of a sudden you weren't trying to put down a good time... like you go out there and do warm up/cool-down laps for 20 minutes.

And who's even talking about NASA rules here? But since you mentioned it, the reason your car would class TTA and mine would class TTS is because you built your car specifically for NASA and I didn't. if you wannt talk NASA just wait till I whoop your TTC records in my slow *** TTD car, bioch.

the reason grillo pulled on you was cause your turbo wasn't making boost cause that ebay kingnugawa was a POS. Reason I pulled on you at monti was cause I was carrying more speed entering and exiting the corners despite my heavier, less powerful, less sticky tires and stock aero setup.

we had the same size and type of tire but mines were way more 'used' than yours. I forget the exact amount of heat cycles but it was somewhere around 60 HC for the hoosiers I was on at TB before I even drove on them. IT was also my first time EVER on a track with A6's and I was taking my time finding the limit. You've had much more time/experience on them than me. Not making an excuse here, just sayin.

Its not about who's faster on track, its about whos the better driver. thats why we track, kart, autox and all that ish. You're the one who keeps throwing out this 2 seconds faster BS, so lets level the playing field and see who the better driver really is. autox is the perfect venue for that. it would be a course neither has driven before and we could swap each others cars so there wouldn't be a setup advantage/disadvantage.

you beat me in karting on Monday by .3xx and I fully admit that. You beat me 2 out of 9 rounds. I beat you 7 of the 9 times. You're also a good 30-40# lighter than me... not making excuses, just sayin.

how about instead we see who the better driver is, not who has the best setup car. You and me do an autox where we drive each others car and the faster driver will be the one who has the lowest combined time. that makes the most sense, is the safest and its the only real way to take the other variables out, unless you want to risk driving to a track neither of us has been to and letting each of us drive the others car @ the limit to see who has the bigger e-*****.

 

^ all i hear is "wah...wah...wah...my ***** is sore and i can only autox"

like i'm going to try to put down my fastest time on street tires when i brought rcomp to compete and all my competitors are running rcomp. point is i dont tried to be competitive on street tires in class where everyone run rcomp. i've been burned many times before by leaving it all on the last session. that's something that i've tried to fixed the last few events.

i run A6 for the first time the same day that you did at thunderbolt. sure i ran R6 and NT01 before but they are nothing compare to A6. there are street tires that are nearly as good as NT01. just like you found that you were faster on Z1 than NT01.

you've been to NJMP as much if not more than I have, don't play that game that son. it's not like we're talking about glen or summit where i done more.

put up $100 for GTA or pull out your e-***** and a ruler.

if you want to make it "fair", we'll go to VIR and do it there. neither of us have been there. drive what you brung.

 

That was some of the best reading I've done in a while.

Both y'all ninjas is cray. Sayin.



I will say Thai is right about one thing, I'm not used to pushing hard on road courses, I usually drive within my limits, which is what everyone should do. The laps he rode with me at WGI, I was pushing, and those were the fastest laps I did all weekend. I need more seat time before I'm comfortable driving like that on the regular.


I challenge either one of you to a good old street tire shootout in autox, just for s&g's. I really don't think I'm that good, I got raw timed by nelly earlier this year. Granted he had better suspension, more power and fresh tires, just sayin.

 

^ why the eff are you still on PCD if you let nelly beat chu

how about we settle this with an old fashion bmx bike race. winner is the best driver that ever lived. done.