PCD: 2013-2014 Till We Break It Edition
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There are also some seasoned guys there, which I will not name, who think they can just go queue up to run when they feel like it. There were a few guys who I was holding my hand up to doing the "stop" hand sign that just went around me. Then you also have the guys who didn't want to grid next to other cars so they just left like 4 parking spots opened then throw their tire warmers in the empty spots.
Usually, its the incidents on course that holds the events up. There were no incidents from what I remember, other than a few cold Hoosiers causing spins. The worker table and registration table was efficient because there were no lines as everyone prereg, and signup to work themselves. Which means it was the rest of the staff that was inefficient. The ladies in the truck especially!
I'm not trying to say one region is better than another. Just saying if SUS was more efficient in some things, they can certainly get 140 cars through. Philly events are capped at 180, with kid karts, which takes forever to get going most of the time since they don't allwo any cars to move when kids are running, and they also get parade laps. And most times, we get lunch break. Philly can certain learn from SUS in prereg and worker assignment though.
I would do more SUS events if it wasn't so far. Lot choices with Philly suck this season.
I'm not trying to say one region is better than another. Just saying if SUS was more efficient in some things, they can certainly get 140 cars through. Philly events are capped at 180, with kid karts, which takes forever to get going most of the time since they don't allwo any cars to move when kids are running, and they also get parade laps. And most times, we get lunch break. Philly can certain learn from SUS in prereg and worker assignment though.
I would do more SUS events if it wasn't so far. Lot choices with Philly suck this season.
Last edited by chu; Apr 8, 2013 at 07:16 AM.
Registration went quick cause all of them were pre registered, so they just show up and check in, minor revision made if they want to change class. If there were a lot of noob walk up like normal, then it would be slower cause they have to fill out the weekend membership and figure out which class to run ect.
Susq has always had issues with timing ever since I can remember, we loose so much time from it with all the reruns. That why they got a new system this year and still learning how to use it. The people working in the timing truck has the crappiest job. Imagine sitting in that truck all day during 100 degree weather, and they don't even drive at the event. Most of them are old school and have been doing it for awhile, so they don't like to change. If we can get new people to volunteer for the job, then I think things could run a lot smoother, but no one has steep up even though the issues has been brought up many times. They know its a crappy job.
I think the porsche club in our region has the best and most efficient timing system. They use scanner when you come up to the line and then give you time slip when you pull back grid after each run.
Susq has always had issues with timing ever since I can remember, we loose so much time from it with all the reruns. That why they got a new system this year and still learning how to use it. The people working in the timing truck has the crappiest job. Imagine sitting in that truck all day during 100 degree weather, and they don't even drive at the event. Most of them are old school and have been doing it for awhile, so they don't like to change. If we can get new people to volunteer for the job, then I think things could run a lot smoother, but no one has steep up even though the issues has been brought up many times. They know its a crappy job.
I think the porsche club in our region has the best and most efficient timing system. They use scanner when you come up to the line and then give you time slip when you pull back grid after each run.
Saturday was a ton of fun. Everyone was really competitive. We were constantly jumping spots in the class, until Chu laid it down. Nice work! I went for it on my 4th run, but made it about 8 seconds until I spun.
Here is video of my fastest run. The lap timer isn't accurate as the GPS start point wasn't working right. But everything else is pretty much on.
And here is a video of my friend Jason who co-drove. It was his first event and did very well for his first time. I used his master video of his fastest run and overlayed my fastest run. My video is a delayed start, because the videos are synced to end at the same time. This way you can see the spots where I picked up time on him.
It's one of the new features of Harry's Lap Timer, along with multicamera support.
Here is video of my fastest run. The lap timer isn't accurate as the GPS start point wasn't working right. But everything else is pretty much on.
And here is a video of my friend Jason who co-drove. It was his first event and did very well for his first time. I used his master video of his fastest run and overlayed my fastest run. My video is a delayed start, because the videos are synced to end at the same time. This way you can see the spots where I picked up time on him.
It's one of the new features of Harry's Lap Timer, along with multicamera support.
^Philly doesn't have a dedicate staff working the truck. THey request people every event, and it still works somehow. Once would assume the same group of workers working the same job each event would be more efficient. Philly uses barcodes and scan the driver as they approach the start. In any case, I want to run that big *** lot again...I'd probably get lost if they use the entire space.
I also wasn't sure how the OBD data was going to work with all the stop and go, and if there would be a delay with RPM and throttle. I didn't notice much of a delay at all, so I was pleased with that.
I still need to work out the GPS positioning with the start and finish line. I realize I'm not going to get truley accurate times, but I want to at least be close. And also not to start timing when I am just staging.
Tim, your top speed showed 51 mph, its probably off a little if you're using internal 1hz GPS sensor, but my top speed on the first run was 63 mph, even though you got faster time. Comparing the two video, you have higher cornering speed. I guess them r1r are still working pretty good even though they won't pass inspection 
Lot of fast cars out there on Saturday, r-comps and pros came out. A chick in novice class ran over the finish line sensors, that was awesome. Looked like she exploded it. But apparently it didn't die. Everything that could go wrong went wrong or was designed to. Workers not ready on first heat, 20 minute wait at first heat start, second heat gets anther course walk before they start and before first heat people start working (wtf?). All in all makes me really appreciate Philly Region.
Lot of fast cars out there on Saturday, r-comps and pros came out. A chick in novice class ran over the finish line sensors, that was awesome. Looked like she exploded it. But apparently it didn't die. Everything that could go wrong went wrong or was designed to. Workers not ready on first heat, 20 minute wait at first heat start, second heat gets anther course walk before they start and before first heat people start working (wtf?). All in all makes me really appreciate Philly Region.
there's been many discussion on the yahoo forum about eliminating some of the course walk before each heat. but the board said we have to join as a member and go to board meetings to discuss and vote on it, not just talk on the forum. their reasoning was that it allows the people in the timing truck have a break between each heat. most workers only work one heat, those people have to sit in the truck all day long.