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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 09:00 AM
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Penguin, you need a ShoeMotorsports Front Splitter. AiB might still be selling his...
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 09:30 AM
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^ anything that will help air go over the car and reduce air going under the car is going to help with front earo lift. if it's going to produce a significant amount of down force from the lip, then make sure you secure it good or it's going to rip off. there's lots of people who mount the APR spitter directly to the bumper with no other supports, and the splitter ripped of at the track. i don't think the APR lip will produce as much as the splitter but does stick out pretty far from the front pumper.
yeah the apr splitter in junk imho...i can make something better, but i figured id go apr lip and just undertray first and take it in stages. the bottom of the lip is flat and appears to have space that i could use dzus fasteners to attack some aluma lite. and then down the road ill have a setup where i could just cut a piece that would extend as a splitter past the lip.

i dont think im ready for true front downforce yet, but i think id benefit from anything that can help stabilize the front end. evasive still lists the lip in non carbon so im hoping its still available.

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Penguin, you need a ShoeMotorsports Front Splitter. AiB might still be selling his...
yeah his was nice, the only thing with that is i cant leave it on the car at this point...well i mean i could but. just undertray for now could still be a daily drive situation.
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 10:11 AM
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yeah, alwaysinvac's front splitter was pretty low, he had issues driving with it on the streets. mine is not every low, i never scraped it driving on the street but that means that it's also not as effective on the track unless it was lower. i'm planning on making a new one that i can quick disconnect and lower it at the track. Foren's setup is nice and give me some ideas. his disconnect pretty quick so he can load the car on the trailer.
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 04:55 PM
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mines actually isn't that low and I never had issues driving it on the street, not sure where you came up with that. I drove to and from NJMP & Monticello without any issues, not to mention daily driving it now and then.

It worked very well at reducing understeer and is designed to work perfectly in conjunction with the OEM wing. I only pulled it off because I put the car back into winter mode.
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by AlwaysinBoost
mines actually isn't that low and I never had issues driving it on the street, not sure where you came up with that. I drove to and from NJMP & Monticello without any issues, not to mention daily driving it now and then.

It worked very well at reducing understeer and is designed to work perfectly in conjunction with the OEM wing. I only pulled it off because I put the car back into winter mode.
I'd like to see some CFD before order, please.
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 05:17 PM
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all you'll see are my tailights, sun!
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 05:21 PM
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what I meant about 'designed to work perfectly with the OEM wing' is that the size of the splitter complements the rest of the aero well. Its not too much front grip to make the car tail happy and not too little to not notice a difference. I had team Foren to thank for some of the tweaking. If I would have listened to his suggestion in the first place about the size of the overhang it would have saved me some R&D, lol.
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by AlwaysinBoost
mines actually isn't that low and I never had issues driving it on the street, not sure where you came up with that. I drove to and from NJMP & Monticello without any issues, not to mention daily driving it now and then.

It worked very well at reducing understeer and is designed to work perfectly in conjunction with the OEM wing. I only pulled it off because I put the car back into winter mode.
your **** was scraping all over the place at monticello son. i was in the car. don't make me pull out the vids on the phone. my splitter sit flush to the lower lip. your hang below the lip and needs a air dam. not to mention your suspension is setup with a lower front rake, my suspension is level.

that **** looks pretty low compare to mine.





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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 07:42 PM
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haha, that pics shows my car at static height (which is already lower than yours) while yours is obviously under load with the front end being lifted. just look at the height difference from left to right between where your lip sits compared to your tires.

I do have a lower front rake than you, but my splitter sits _exactly_ 3/8" lower than my SE lip, which is the same thickness of the alumilite I used. In other words it sits right up against my SE lip. I don't have issues driving on the street either, if i did the bottom of the splitter would be all tore up from hitting ****, but its not.

Not to mention my ish looks maaad tight.
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 07:57 PM
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yes, my car is under load on the driver side, which means the driver side is lower than it would normally at resting. so even comparing my driver side to yours, it's still much higher. i'm not bagging on your setup, i want mine to be at least that low. but i had to mount mine against the lower lip to comply with nasa rules (air dam are extra points). but since i can do anything with aero now, i want to make it lower but it's not going to be street friendly, so i'll have to make it detachable so i can raise it and lower it quickly.

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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 08:21 PM
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^ you retarded monkey.

your car isn't under load only on the driverside. in that pic you're going around an uphill right hand turn, so most of the weight is on the driverside, BUT you're still on the gas which means more weight is in the rear of the car = front higher than if you were static.

when both cars are static your front is higher than mines... its not my fault your shop can't set your ride height correctly.
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 08:30 PM
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^ dump retard monkey. How I'm I accelerating if the rear passenger side wheel is off the ground. Is chu too retard to understand how tripodding works. Rear wheel lift mean opposite front wheel is under load.
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 08:44 PM
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Seriously dude... do i have to break this ish down for you?? I thought chu were pro!

try and think of just what is happening on the driver side of the car. The left rear wheel is seeing the most weight cause you're on the gas going around a right turn up a hill. because most of the weight is in the rear that means the front of the car is higher than it would be if you were not on the gas... does that make sense or should I draw chu a picture.
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 09:07 PM
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Yes, please draw picture
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Old Jan 6, 2013 | 05:24 AM
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Waiting for picture.
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