Beaverton Mitsubishi
Cali cars make less HP may be because they have 91 oct gas vs 92 oct here, thus you potentially cant boost as high.
Originally Posted by justlooking
question: Do the calif cars make less HP? That sounded like total crap to me.
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From: Portland, OR
There is a Silver 06 MR and a Red 06 MR at Town and Country on McLoughlin. Talk to Ishmael Gonzalez (just ask for Ish, everyone will know who he is). He is the brother of the owner of all the T&C dealerships. He is tight but honest. He is also a former racer, talk cars with him, let him know you have tracked. He can tell some great stories about some of the greats.
Originally Posted by justlooking
As you can see by my name...I'm looking! 
I spent an hour or so at beaverton Mits today. It wasn't a horrible experience, but here are some of lines I was told:
1) The cars in california selling for less have hail damage.
2) Cars in calif are lower power? (is this true? they claimed emissions issues..hmmm..)
3) The car is fastest if you shift early to get the turbo spoolin? huh?
4) The car is so fast the gov is making mits lower the power from now on! Wow, better tell BMW, Chevy, Dodge, Ford, etc that a lot of their cars aren't going to sell here anymore!!
It was pretty bad. They wanted $3k over for an MR and wouldn't hardly budge...OK...
But, I got to drive the car; no issue. First time I had driven one. I liked it a lot. I have tracked an S2000 extensively in Oregon and Texas, but sold it before I moved back. Looking forward to getting into an 06 MR sooner then later. Anyone want to sell me one for ~$34k? (silver or grey please)
Anyway, HI!
I spent an hour or so at beaverton Mits today. It wasn't a horrible experience, but here are some of lines I was told:1) The cars in california selling for less have hail damage.
2) Cars in calif are lower power? (is this true? they claimed emissions issues..hmmm..)
3) The car is fastest if you shift early to get the turbo spoolin? huh?
4) The car is so fast the gov is making mits lower the power from now on! Wow, better tell BMW, Chevy, Dodge, Ford, etc that a lot of their cars aren't going to sell here anymore!!
It was pretty bad. They wanted $3k over for an MR and wouldn't hardly budge...OK...
But, I got to drive the car; no issue. First time I had driven one. I liked it a lot. I have tracked an S2000 extensively in Oregon and Texas, but sold it before I moved back. Looking forward to getting into an 06 MR sooner then later. Anyone want to sell me one for ~$34k?
(silver or grey please)Anyway, HI!
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WAKE UP AMERICA
I’m a journeyman technician in an automotive shop
I’m supposed to know the answers from the bottom to the top.
I should diagnose the problem with just a single look
And if I fail to fix it you think that I’m a crook.
When I charge you for my labor you ***** and scream and moan
And even call and threaten me upon the telephone.
But technology in the auto is advancing every year,
And for the systems I must know I simply have no peer.
I must be more electrician than the man who wires your home
For the wiring system in you car outstrips the astrodome.
The refrigerator systems that I’m supposed to know
Have far more gadgets than your home to make the damn thing go.
Electronics now have made the scene and more are coming yet
Some models now will far exceed your television set.
In hydraulics I have more to learn than a specialist in pumps
There are brakes and shock absorbers to help absorb the bumps.
Torque converters and transmissions with servos, valves and gears
With models by the hundreds introduced in recent years
Fuel systems of a hundred kinds I must adjust and meter
Each far more complicated then your furnace or water heater.
The principles of combustion I must know from A to Z
And gear trains that will far exceed most all machinery.
I’m in welding, I’m in plumbing for water, vacuum, oil and fuel
Compared to me, a plumber is a kid in grammar school
There’s alignment & there’s balancing and God alone knows what
If I fix it, that’s expected, If I don’t I’m on the spot.
There’s models, makes and systems some seven hundred strong
And new one’s coming up each year to help the scheme along.
Now compare me to a doctor whose prices make mine meager
Yet folks revere his expertise even more impressed and eager.
The human body hasn’t changed in twenty thousand years
And every model works the same from the ankles to the ears.
There’s years of school to learn his field and almost none in mine
I’ve learned by practicing my trade and I read what I can find.
There’s new equipment and techniques and medicines for sure
But, this is true in my field too, as much or even more.
There are lots of books he has to read, his procedures to define
But for every page in his field, there are twenty five in mine.
There’s no comebacks and no warranty, you pay for what you get
And then come back and pay again if he hasn’t fixed you yet.
His mistakes are often buried while mine come back for free
And he plays golf on Wednesday while my customers hassle me.
We spend millions of tax dollars sending kids to medical school
But, if you ask for some in my field you’re treated like a fool.
Everybody has one body, but no one has more
But when it comes to autos, you may have three or more.
But you’ll go right on complaining of the way I run my show
With no appreciation for the things I have to know.
And you’ll take your high school dropouts and you’ll shove them off to us
And expect them to be experts while you rant and rave and fuss.
And when your car cannot be serviced, I’ll not hang my head in shame
So you’d best wake up America and find out who’s to blame.
I’m a journeyman technician in an automotive shop
I’m supposed to know the answers from the bottom to the top.
I should diagnose the problem with just a single look
And if I fail to fix it you think that I’m a crook.
When I charge you for my labor you ***** and scream and moan
And even call and threaten me upon the telephone.
But technology in the auto is advancing every year,
And for the systems I must know I simply have no peer.
I must be more electrician than the man who wires your home
For the wiring system in you car outstrips the astrodome.
The refrigerator systems that I’m supposed to know
Have far more gadgets than your home to make the damn thing go.
Electronics now have made the scene and more are coming yet
Some models now will far exceed your television set.
In hydraulics I have more to learn than a specialist in pumps
There are brakes and shock absorbers to help absorb the bumps.
Torque converters and transmissions with servos, valves and gears
With models by the hundreds introduced in recent years
Fuel systems of a hundred kinds I must adjust and meter
Each far more complicated then your furnace or water heater.
The principles of combustion I must know from A to Z
And gear trains that will far exceed most all machinery.
I’m in welding, I’m in plumbing for water, vacuum, oil and fuel
Compared to me, a plumber is a kid in grammar school
There’s alignment & there’s balancing and God alone knows what
If I fix it, that’s expected, If I don’t I’m on the spot.
There’s models, makes and systems some seven hundred strong
And new one’s coming up each year to help the scheme along.
Now compare me to a doctor whose prices make mine meager
Yet folks revere his expertise even more impressed and eager.
The human body hasn’t changed in twenty thousand years
And every model works the same from the ankles to the ears.
There’s years of school to learn his field and almost none in mine
I’ve learned by practicing my trade and I read what I can find.
There’s new equipment and techniques and medicines for sure
But, this is true in my field too, as much or even more.
There are lots of books he has to read, his procedures to define
But for every page in his field, there are twenty five in mine.
There’s no comebacks and no warranty, you pay for what you get
And then come back and pay again if he hasn’t fixed you yet.
His mistakes are often buried while mine come back for free
And he plays golf on Wednesday while my customers hassle me.
We spend millions of tax dollars sending kids to medical school
But, if you ask for some in my field you’re treated like a fool.
Everybody has one body, but no one has more
But when it comes to autos, you may have three or more.
But you’ll go right on complaining of the way I run my show
With no appreciation for the things I have to know.
And you’ll take your high school dropouts and you’ll shove them off to us
And expect them to be experts while you rant and rave and fuss.
And when your car cannot be serviced, I’ll not hang my head in shame
So you’d best wake up America and find out who’s to blame.
LOL nice poem. I really have no pity though when I look at the maintenance manual for my car. It's 5 volumes and explains every nuance of how to do everything in detail. I worked on AH-64 Apache helicopters...which are far more complicated, and far more important to fix right the first time...and I often had to work on them in the middle of a dusty field...and all I had was a high school education, some training, and a toolbox...AND MAINTENANCE MANUALS...because if you RTFM you will always know how to do something.
Originally Posted by machron1
...because if you RTFM you will always know how to do something.
Having computers to plug-in and diagnose problems don't hurt either.. Mitsubishi dealerships have those right???
Originally Posted by evolution_racer
+1
Having computers to plug-in and diagnose problems don't hurt either.. Mitsubishi dealerships have those right???
Having computers to plug-in and diagnose problems don't hurt either.. Mitsubishi dealerships have those right???
