ok idlike to say something on this
1.i didnt know they spin backwards and dont need too cause it has no affect on my job
2.i had 3 eclpise owners tell me thats why they steal the evo so i was just repeating something from someone else if it was wrong tell me
3.i said evos cant launch like civics cause youll kill the clutch cause most evo owners dont know how the launch it(some do )
4.i know what 60 ft and 60 mph is (i grew up at the drags with my brother)
5. u sure i did the work cause i dont do alignments or suspension and we all make mistakes bring it back we'll fix it
i have met some really cool people (caesur,eric,josh ect ect) but met some a**holes too thinking that we owe them the world
i dont know anything but what u guys say to me about swaps or aftermarket parts (u know 10 times what i do about your car i just work on them)we work on 25 years of mitsu cars ,i like the mitsu cars but im a minitrucker at heart and we'll never own an evo again (had one for 6 months and couldnt handle it)
if you ever really talk to me youll see i sler and im hard to understand at times but we try to do the best we can and treat each car like its ours
by the way this is mike from mitsu just my 2 cents
stop by and say whats up we always want to see cool new stuff !

 

I donno if someone posted this before cause I'm to lazy to read through over 5 pages of this topic, but at Mountain you can buy the car with Works mods. I donno about other parts but they'll add it into the financing so you can drive off the lot with a fairly modded evo.

 

Matter of fact... I wonder what would happen if I replaced the carbon fiber strip on the wing of the evo and replaced it with a solar panel.. c.c naw...

 

stop by and say whats up we always want to see cool new stuff ! [/QUOTE]
I would stop by, but am afraid Mitsu will void my waranty. I have had a couple of Mitsu service managers tell me to go somewhere else. My last Evo was turned in to Mitsu from seeing me at Woodburn racing, when all I was doing is watching. My Evo sat in the cars of interest section not being raced at all. But anyways does your S-10 have a V-8? I have a 93 S-10 extra cab that I put a 383 stroker in. I love it when it gets a little traction.

 

I tell you what. Both Mike and Andy from Beaverton Mitsu have been very good to my car and understanding of my mods. Those guys could have sent me packing when my tranny synchros were going and voided my warranty because of my boost controller, aftermarket clutch, etc, but they didnt. I also didnt blow snow up their butts and lie about what I had done to the car. Andy was a top notch mechanic and really got my car working properly again. So as far as the service department goes Im really happy. Cant say the same for the sales side though.

 

I will get my EB EVO 9 or EVO X in town n country. fucck beaverton mitsubishi sales people !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they all ignorante,!!!!! service is cool jack mike andy tanya they all have been cool to me.

 

i tell u this guys the only one that can void your warrenty is the rep or mitsu themselves and when u break stuff over and over thats when they go huh whats going on here, the dealership needs to call the rep and we have never calld on anyone matter of fact we have saved some cars by putting them outside when the rep was supposed to be here

 

I was wondering when you would chime in on this thread because I remembered you said you were on this forum. I hope you also read where I was defending you a couple posts after this. I'm not going to argue most of the points above, as you have a right to give your side of the story. I will say that I'm fairly certain I heard what you said clearly. I have talked to you many times!

Anyway, my main point was, you are a nice guy and you actually care about our cars. However, you seem to have a lot of misconceptions about Evos. I know everyone makes mistakes. It's just that I remember you saying for a fact when I first got my car that the front camber on an Evo is not-adjustable, and you had just gotten back from Evo school, etc. This is actually wrong (as I hope you know by now), because there are eccentric bolts in the top hole of the front struts which have 2 camber positions. It clearly states this in the maintenance manual which I now own. So, after you tore down my suspension to put the rubber hoses in my springs to quiet the rattling under warranty (which was a neat trick BTW), you put the eccentric bolt in the bottom hole on the left side when it should have gone in the top. I believe since you assumed the camber was non-adjustable, you therefore did not know the strut bolts were different from top to bottom, because you weren't looking for an arrow on the bolt head, and consequently mis-installed it. Not a huge deal, but just one example where being overconfident and not looking up a job in the manual caused a mistake. Further, after realizing the alignment problem, buying new tires, and going to your alignment tech, he didn't catch this mistake either, and my car never drove right after all 3 alignments that guy did. I finally got fed up and paid to have it done at Firestone, and when they pulled up the alignment specs on their computer, they took me back and showed me where the eccentric bolt was mis-installed and that whoever put my suspension back together didn't know what they were doing! This was the time I realized I should take everything you said with a grain of salt, because you talked like you knew everything from going to the special Evo training, but messed up on a simple thing like that.

Like I said before, as far as mechanics go you are top notch, and you do care about our cars, and I do still recommend you for service. It's just that you have a lot of crazy ideas sometimes, I assume from all the people you encounter day-to-day who haven't a clue what they are talking about, but act like they do. I made that post because a lot of people who don't know as much about cars as I do take your word as gospel when it's not always 100% correct. I hope you don't think I was trying to diss you or anything, I just wanted to point out you are human too and not a walking Evo encyclopedia like some people think you are.

And about warranty work, if my car was still under warranty I know I could count on you for as much help as possible, and not try to deny warranty work just because of mods. That said, if you are on your 3rd transfer case you are abusing your car and not even Mike can save you!!!!!!!!!

EDIT: PS, If I sound critical of mechanics, well I was a helicopter mechanic for 6 years and if I did something like this, it could potentially cause one to fall out of the air. I am used to using a torque wrench on every single nut and bolt, reading the manual at every step, etc. So, automatically, when I see impact guns and air tools being used on everything without a torque wrench in sight...well, I get nervous. Even at home I use a torque wrench and a maintenance manual. I was always taught that even if you do something 100X, you still read the manual, because what if something changed with a new update? What if you forgot a simple thing that will cause a problem?

 

I doubt Mike would try to deny warranty work unless you had like 400whp and you just scattered your transmission for the 3rd time...or something like that...

When my car was under warranty it went there for service many times and they never said anything about my exhaust or boost controller...but then again I wasn't drag racing every night and breaking driveline parts either...

 

LOL don't expect sales people not to attempt to rape you for every cent they can get. It's pretty much universal, and especially common with the razor-thin profit margins of new Japanese cars. Salespeople who do not attempt to rape their customers don't get big commission checks and don't last long...

I've learned that instead of getting mad or ripped off, you can either ask for a different sales rep, or simply walk away. The internet sales rep is normally the best person to deal with as they normally don't work on commission.

PS, one trick they use is taking your keys as soon as possible to "assess the trade-in value" and never give them back. It's to take away your ability to drive out of there in a split-second if you get mad. Don't let them take your keys until you feel comfortable that you are about to ink a deal.

 

to be honest i didnt know it was adjustable dont do much with suspension alignments but i was told they were none adjust so thanks for inform and i will inform the others also on monday, mitsu classes on cars are very general since there like 10 models of cars we touch daily they dont specialize in one car we learn as we go and have time so if i screwd up sorry and sorry we didnt catch it,that class u went to sounds cool,i dont know anything other then whats told to me so if u have correct info for me ill gladly listen or if im wrong tell me and i do own those torgue things i promise lol and use them and no i dont sit down and read the service manuel each day but use when needed cause of lack of time i do 20 plus cars a day and barely touch evos other than drivabilty and noises
thanks for good words too i try to do good sometimes it goes both ways

 

Ah well here you go FYI:

Translation:

SELECTION THE CAMBER
It's hard to see, but in the picture on the left the arrow is pointing like this:And in the picture on the right the arrow is pointing like this:

 

Ah well here you go FYI:

Translation:

SELECTION THE CAMBER
It's hard to see, but in the picture on the left the arrow is pointing like this:And in the picture on the right the arrow is pointing like this:When you put my suspension back together, the eccentric bolt was on the bottom hole on the left side instead of in the top hole, and you also somehow managed to put the arrow facing neither left nor right on the other side on the top, causing a little bit of damage to the protrusion on the strut itself that is supposed to hold the flat side of the eccentric bolt facing one side or the other, and I'm willing to bet if you had actually applied the proper amount of torque, it would have smashed that protrusion even more than it was.

I understand you have to push through 20 cars in a day whereas I only had to do 1-3 jobs per day on any given helicopter (although a job depending on what it was normally really involved). However, in my opinion, it's not dangerous to actually know something, and it's not dangerous not to know something and look it up, but it is dangerous to not know something yet think you do and never look it up, because it leads to mistakes such as this. If I didn't know to look for the arrows on the bolt heads I probably would have done the same thing you did, because unless you really look closely, both bolts look the same and they fit wherever you want them to without much trouble. Also, if you never looked in the manual, how did you know to torque the nuts to 120 ft/lbs? Or did you use German torque...good-n-tight.

That said, this is how every automotive shop works all around the world. You cannot expect aviation-grade maintenance on an automobile unless you are willing to fork over aviation-grade money...this is just the way mechanic shops operate to stay in business, which is why I always find myself checking up on them in general. Another time at Beaverton Mitsubishi, a tech (not Mike or Andy) had to replace my wheel studs because of a mistake at a tire shop. When he took my front caliper off, he left it dangling by the rubber hose!!!!! I walked up to him and told him in the manual it says not to do that, and he basically told me I didn't know what I was talking about and it would be fine. So, I had to go to Jack (service manager) and tell him to tell that guy to do his job right, and then Jack told him to hang the caliper by a coathanger or something and that everyone knows to do this...especially with a caliper that weighs as much as the damned Brembo calipers!!!!

I just do all my own work as much as I can now, because even though I don't have an automotive background, as long as I have the correct tools, the manual, and enough sense to know generally what I'm doing, I normally succeed and feel the job is done better than it would have been at most mechanic shops. For the things I have to take my car in for, I make sure to do all the research and communicate with the person exactly what needs to be done, and I watch them as much as possible. I fear that people who do none of this, regardless of where they take their cars, are not receiving 100% correct repairs.

Anyway, Mike and Andy down at Beaverton Mitsubishi are in the upper echelon of service as far as I'm concerned. It's just that nobody can fix my baby as well as I want them to If you have neither the time nor inclination to do your own work, they are a good bet, because at least they care enough to make your car right, and they do good work as far as I've seen, as far as auto mechanics go. Most other mechanics I've seen just want to push your car through and don't treat it any differently than a Ford Taurus!

 

I was at Beaverton Mitsu the other day for some warranty work and it was an okay experience. I had such low expectations because of past experience's that anything short of my car blowing up would of left me with a smile on my face. I was anxious the entire day at the beach because I don't trust them at all but my warranty is up soon and it had to be fixed. My car is all stock except for wheels which I was hoping they wouldn't give me any trouble about and they didn't thankfully.

There were three things that needed to be fixed. One of my HID's was moving up and down on it's own, there's a rattle under the car and my caliper paint is peeling. I'm getting a new headlight assembly in a couple days which I'm happy about but the other two things didn't go so well. They said the rattle was fixed but it's not and my caliper's are not covered because somebody did a bad brake job and leaked brake fluid on the calipers. I thought this was funny because this car has NEVER had a brake job done on it He said to bring it back when the rep is there next month and see if he'll do anything about it but I won't even bother I'm sure.

Overall the service dept was good but when it came time to pick up my car after hours I had to deal with the sales dept who had my keys for after hours pickup. It took them about 30 min to find the keys that were sitting in a little box in plain view. They told me at first they couldn't find the keys and I would have to come get it tomorrow morning which was not possible because I didn't have a ride and there was a meeting I had to attend at 7:30am. It was no surprise the guy (I assume a sales manager) didn't give a s**t. So, I started getting firm with him (I had been nothing but patient and nice up until now) and told him to call the service manager or whoever it would take to find out where they were. He called somebody and I finally got the keys and left.

If I hadn't dealt with the sales dept then it would've been an overall good enough experience. I REALLY wish I could get my caliper's fixed though

Mike, do you have any suggestions on what I can do? You seem like a good guy to ask

Sorry for the long post everybody

 

Then why go there?