Hello,
some people unfortunately have big mis-conceptions about DynaPack.
DynaPacks are not the highest reading dynos, DynoJets time and time again
have been. Some most recent examples have been vs a local dynojet,
Civic with B20 230whp on dynojet, did 210 whp on ours yesterday
Supra with Greddy T78 550whp when automatic on dynojet, 550whp AFTER manual conversion on ours (if you dont understand the signifigance of that, then please stop reading, you won't understand the rest)
You can even call Dynamics Dynos, they will admit that the system they use is
basically a Dynapack with rollers, and actually, they REALLY like dynapacks as well.
As for Reaction EVO8's numbers, please find your graph and tell me the gear ratio that was used. Our previous tuner before Moses used to use the rolling method of gear ratios and that may be innaccurate. We always use (after Mo and I came here) the oem supplied gear ratio numbers to multiply for gear ratio. But it definetely will read lower on a DD regardless. That is just a well known fact as well.
Brake horsepower, wheel horsepower yadda yadda. A dyno is merely a tool to measure and compare for a tuner to maximize their impact while still running safe.
At least between dynapacks you will have the most consistent readings.
Why? Because a dynapack CLEARLY displays on the sheet the gear ratio, TCF,
and speed. You can not manipulate numbers without people knowing. On a mustang and others do they show weight and such? no, which greatly affects those load based types.
IN ANY CASE as I said it is a tool to measure gains and losses. The matter of fact is that the car ran ****ty when it came in, gained hp/torque AND the turbo spools faster while having a safer AF and no knock when it left. You guys can pick apart graphs all you want, but we are definetely getting results.

 

if you go to fame in redmond mustang dyno probably around 300 and at KitoAutosports mustang dyno in ballard, i seriously doubt you'll break 300 there, with your mods

 

i think arguing about dyno numbers and comparing one dyno to another is dumb. especially when these numbers are far from being dyno queen numbers. comparing one dyno to another is just apples n oranges. dynos can lie. but trap speeds dont. theres been a few big hp evo's around here but they put down pitiful trap speeds. so again, dyno numbers dont always tell the truth. its all about the tune, not the numbers.

-zol

 

When I put down 365whp on my previous set up it trapped at 116+.

What's your power numbers on your respective dynos and what do you trap at?

Also, to the people who posted saying our dyno isn't putting down real numbers, bring your Evolution down here. If you beat that 350whp that my customer put down I'll give you the dyno for free.

Shoot, if you even get within 20whp of him, I'll give you the baseline for free. You guys game?

 

I also tune for a living. Why don't you bring your evolution to our shop? I'll baseline it for free.

 

The bottom line for me is that I have made consistant power gains over my baseline with the mods I have added. All dyno runs for me have been on Axiom's dyno so as to keep things consistant and relative.

I have stuck with Axiom and their Dynapack because they are good honest guys who are fair and very knowledgeable.

I started with a DynoFlash base flash, then a DynoFlash custom road tune with Al in Portland back in March and now a custom dyno tune with Moses this weekend.

I am very happy after Moses's tune. The numbers (relative as they are) make me feel good about the mod choices I have made so far. The way the car pulls, its smoothness and where it makes power now are a positive refelection on Moses's tuning abilities.

 

Mo, does that apply to me too?

 

Ill do your for free anytime baby!

 

haha i just read my post again damn its long.
It's amazing what jealousy does to people.

 

Has this thread gone there now

 

It is really simple math to figure it out.

It is whp because it is being measured at the wheel (after drivetrain power loss), not the flywheel/crank.

I think the confusion is being caused by the fact that the dynapack is a brake style dyno (instead of inertia like others). That doesn't mean it reads brake horse power, it instead means that it uses a brake system to produce resistance (either water-brake or eddy-current brake style).

 

So your baseline of 258 is without mods? Or as it rolled into Axiom? What fuel are we talking about, pump or race? What boost? Pursuant to answers to the first three questions, When can I bring my car in?

I have seen stock IX's with nothing more than a drop in make 261 wheel corrected on a Dynojet. A little more detailed data.

 

sweet! free dynos all day long for me

 

haha cool. i'm glad i didnt dyno on friday, i woke up this morning, heard a bunch of noise out of the right front and realized the right front wheel bearing gave out.

 

258whp when it rolled in.
92 Oct.
23psi tapering to 19
337whp when It rolled out

The offer was to the people in the beginning of the post. Not for you Jon
I've read your posts on the EcuFlash forums and its good stuff.

Bring your car down this sunday, I'll give you do you a baseline for more then 1/2 off, 40 bucks. How about that?

Also stock Evo IXs make around 250whp on our dynpacks.