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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 07:51 AM
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here is the stance on AC Springs (Whatever they stand for) this is an ASX in puerto rico.

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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 08:33 AM
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Do you have his email address or the link were the picture is. Maybe I can give him a call and find out more about this AC Springs?
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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 11:26 AM
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Hey guys. I have been doing some research and think I may have found something. the ASX is the same thing as the OS here in the USA correct? If so check this link out for lowering springs.

http://eibachloweringsprings.pumaspe...2_497_2959.jsp

shipping would be a little expensive but I think the total would come out for everything at around $286.
Here is the web site that I got the springs from. It was 309 with shipping and everything. Install was very easy. It dropped it about 2 inches.
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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by wildcardnc
Here is the web site that I got the springs from. It was 309 with shipping and everything. Install was very easy. It dropped it about 2 inches.
ASX 1.8 4wd correct?

Or did you get the one for the (VAN) which is also 4wd?
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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 10:00 PM
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so guys i installed the EVO x MR springs today. i didnt cut the springs cause i figured since they were on a evo it may lower it alot. Well i was wrong It BARELY lowered it hahaah. but let me say the evo springs make it handle like a dream and way more smoother than stock. I didnt take a pic since the it didnt lower very much maybe a half inch if anything. in the next few weeks when i get new wheels i will be cuttin few coils. will see then
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Old Jun 18, 2013 | 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisHostos
ASX 1.8 4wd correct?

Or did you get the one for the (VAN) which is also 4wd?
I think the ASX is what you want:

The Pro-Kit (E10-60-016-02-22) product has been listed by Pumaspeed as fitting the following vehicles:

Mitsubishi ASX (GA,W) 1.8 DI-D
Mitsubishi ASX (GA,W) 1.8 DI-D 4WD
Mitsubishi ASX (GA,W) Van 1.8 DiD 4WD
Peugeot 4008 (B) 1.6 Hdi AWC
Peugeot 4008 (B) 1.8 Hdi AWC

Interesting that the Peugeot 4008 is also listed which could mean more cross references.
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Ugleeboi
so guys i installed the EVO x MR springs today. i didnt cut the springs cause i figured since they were on a evo it may lower it alot. Well i was wrong It BARELY lowered it hahaah. but let me say the evo springs make it handle like a dream and way more smoother than stock. I didnt take a pic since the it didnt lower very much maybe a half inch if anything. in the next few weeks when i get new wheels i will be cuttin few coils. will see then
Wait, EVO X MR springs fit all around???
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Ugleeboi
so guys i installed the EVO x MR springs today. i didnt cut the springs cause i figured since they were on a evo it may lower it alot. Well i was wrong It BARELY lowered it hahaah. but let me say the evo springs make it handle like a dream and way more smoother than stock. I didnt take a pic since the it didnt lower very much maybe a half inch if anything. in the next few weeks when i get new wheels i will be cuttin few coils. will see then
So wait a minute, you swapped in the stock Evo X MR springs only and left the Outlander Sport shocks in place and got near stock ride height? That would potentially mean that all Evo X lowering springs would swap in and give similar lowering results to what you get on an Evo X?!

I actually have the original Evo X MR suspension sitting in my garage. After some quick measurements:

Evo X MR OEM Rear Spring:
14" static height - 3.5" top diameter / 4.0" bottom diameter

Outlander Sport OEM Rear Spring:
? static height - ? diameter (need to get these measurements from someone!)

Outlander H&R Rear Spring (these are the ones that are too large diameter):
12" static height - 4.5" top diameter / 4.5" bottom diameter

That would explain the fact that the ride height was similar to stock although I'm not sure how the spring rates would compare. Keep in mind that cutting the spring would raise the spring rate quickly. Also the stock MR suspension is kind of pricey to chop up since you can sell them used with the Bilstein shocks for $600-$800 easily to GSR owners.

Now if you are somehow using the MR Bilstein shocks with the MR springs then I can imagine it would handle much better than stock.

If you go with stiffer springs only it will feel better handling even with shocks that are too soft for them on smooth roads, but the real test is to go around a corner that is bumpy and see if the rear of the car side hops or if going through a dip in the road does the car cycle more than once after the springs rebound?

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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 05:56 AM
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this is news to hear gives more options for sure.
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 06:34 AM
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this doesnt make sense now... i thought the rallart and evox springs were the same dimensions. is this not so? the tein s specs truly did not sit well on the "platform" of the strut designed to hold the spring. the spring was to large in diameter. Im taking apart the car this weekend again. I need to find out if i goofed on it.
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisHostos
this doesnt make sense now... i thought the rallart and evox springs were the same dimensions. is this not so? the tein s specs truly did not sit well on the "platform" of the strut designed to hold the spring. the spring was to large in diameter. Im taking apart the car this weekend again. I need to find out if i goofed on it.
Maybe they were 4" diameter on both ends which might have made them too large diameter? If you notice the measurements I made of the stock MR springs, they have a taper to them where the top side is a smaller diameter.
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Hiboost
Maybe they were 4" diameter on both ends which might have made them too large diameter? If you notice the measurements I made of the stock MR springs, they have a taper to them where the top side is a smaller diameter.
I have a set of GSR and MR springs.. but did all testing w MR w.o Bilsteins

the fronts springs do have a taper. but once compressed it fits. I was kinda iffy at first thinking it would clunk around or may ride like S*** or what not. but nothing at all and it sits fine. The shock is able to move within the spring w.o issue. I drove it through alleys and rough terrain to test it just to see if anything would happen and surprisngly it passed w flying colors.

Rear springs fit fine top and bottom with no issues. But when compared to the GSR OEM rear I noticed that the Gsr was considerably bigger. and wider. So Im not sure if the GSR OEM springs will fit the rear but wouldnt hurt to try.

So What I think went wrong here is that EVO suspensions are pretty stiff. and our stocks feel quite stiff too. but perhaps its alot softer vs the evo x springs. thus why I got stock height.. Cause I can tell you for sure the fronts are shorter than my stocks and I have a 5 finger gap still. The springs I have are from a Evo X MR so there is no need of a break in period and they are already settled.

welp hope this all could help
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 07:48 AM
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You guys want a vendor to help you out here?

So the Eibach PN that works is E10-60-016-02-22? Just want to clarify and I'll take it to my supplier to see if they can get them here in the US a bit easier.

If the MR springs work that obviously opens up a whole bunch of options for you guys but it sounds like the spring rates are too high thus not lowering you guys enough. I can look around and see if someone is willing to get some softer MR springs that might work but of course that gets tricky with the lowering/handling trade offs.

Let me know if my thinking is right. I just read through this thread quickly so obviously at this point you guys are ahead of me in the knowledge.
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Hiboost
I think the ASX is what you want:

The Pro-Kit (E10-60-016-02-22) product has been listed by Pumaspeed as fitting the following vehicles:

Mitsubishi ASX (GA,W) 1.8 DI-D
Mitsubishi ASX (GA,W) 1.8 DI-D 4WD
Mitsubishi ASX (GA,W) Van 1.8 DiD 4WD
Peugeot 4008 (B) 1.6 Hdi AWC
Peugeot 4008 (B) 1.8 Hdi AWC

Interesting that the Peugeot 4008 is also listed which could mean more cross references.
This is the correct part number.
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Old Jun 19, 2013 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Hiboost
I think the ASX is what you want:

The Pro-Kit (E10-60-016-02-22) product has been listed by Pumaspeed as fitting the following vehicles:

Mitsubishi ASX (GA,W) 1.8 DI-D
Mitsubishi ASX (GA,W) 1.8 DI-D 4WD
Mitsubishi ASX (GA,W) Van 1.8 DiD 4WD
Peugeot 4008 (B) 1.6 Hdi AWC
Peugeot 4008 (B) 1.8 Hdi AWC

Interesting that the Peugeot 4008 is also listed which could mean more cross references.

with some curiousity of how the peugeot 4008 can accept the same spring as an ASX ( OS; RVR) i had to google.. and found.. that ummm these two vehicles seem to be quite the copy and paste of eachother.

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