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Old May 3, 2009 | 10:01 PM
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Old May 3, 2009 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by aboh6leenz
^booooo
I figured since everyone has one, they must be decent bikes. I just don't know much about anything with two wheels and I am looking to get a bike within the next month or so. I rode my brothers a bunch today for the first time, and I would love to have one for the summer coming up.
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Old May 3, 2009 | 10:11 PM
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That really sucks and it must be fallout from the economy. You're saying you don't have debt other than the car (which sounds like it would be the trade-in) and the 1 credit card. WTF? Usually debt to income should be 35%-40% or so (makes lenders feel good) but I've seen them sway up to 60%. Mind you, this was in a better economy as I haven't had to worry about this for a bit.

Did you find out what your credit score was? You should be able to call and ask. If over 700 this shouldn't be an issue - even in the high 600s. Also, how many institutions did they try? Maybe try to get your own pre-financing through your bank or join somewhere like a Credit Union like Becu or First Tech, etc. This doesn't seem difficult for a $19k car (I believe that is what you said) with a down payment and a 4 - 6 year loan (I'm assuming). Sorry to hear all this.
If the lender is being responsible, they're looking at the ability of the borrower to pay off the loan. I'm pretty sure Jenni is young, so she's got a few things working against her:

1) Short credit history
2) Lack of stable, long term employment
3) Relatively high existing debt:income ratio

FICO is one factor, but a high FICO score does not necessarily indicate the buyer can pay it off.
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Old May 3, 2009 | 11:08 PM
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jake.. get GSX-R 750...
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Old May 3, 2009 | 11:18 PM
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Gixxer are bad *** bikes. I had a CBR 600 F4i(that bike is great for beginner)and sold the CBR got a R1. the R1 was fast f**king bike. holy ****.
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Old May 3, 2009 | 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by yahu
@jej re: credit - unfortunately it makes the world go around. It is too easy to build bad credit and tough to build good credit, but you will eventually need to rely on it so it is best to do what you can to build it up.
credit only makes the "world go round" because of stupidity. Building up your FICO score is just letting people know that you're good at being in debt, which is dumb. It's better to have no debt and enjoy life. save up for something you want, get it when you can afford it.
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Old May 3, 2009 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jej19
credit only makes the "world go round" because of stupidity. Building up your FICO score is just letting people know that you're good at being in debt, which is dumb. It's better to have no debt and enjoy life. save up for something you want, get it when you can afford it.
To an extent yes, but no.

Let me know how long it takes you to save up to buy a house.
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Old May 3, 2009 | 11:57 PM
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so how do you plan on saving up a couple million dollars to buy a business or a new home? credit is very important! having great credit and being in debt dont go hand in hand

*edit* dam, jake beat me.
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Old May 4, 2009 | 12:16 AM
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So I decided to dance tonight and I took a little video..

here ya go


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-67Xt5R8DY
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Old May 4, 2009 | 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by WestSideBilly
If the lender is being responsible, they're looking at the ability of the borrower to pay off the loan. I'm pretty sure Jenni is young, so she's got a few things working against her:

1) Short credit history
2) Lack of stable, long term employment
3) Relatively high existing debt:income ratio

FICO is one factor, but a high FICO score does not necessarily indicate the buyer can pay it off.
You are completely right but a year ago she probably wouldn't have had the same issue which is why I call this fallout from the economy. Is it a bad thing overall? For a big chunk of the population, clearly not. For Jenni? I honestly don't know but she is at least responsible enough to save up the down payment, which a lot of people in the last decade or so haven't been doing well.
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Old May 4, 2009 | 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by jej19
credit only makes the "world go round" because of stupidity. Building up your FICO score is just letting people know that you're good at being in debt, which is dumb. It's better to have no debt and enjoy life. save up for something you want, get it when you can afford it.
In an ideal world I completely agree with you. The reality for most people (especially in America) is that credit makes the world go around. Having a manageable amount of debt and still enjoying life is the happy medium.
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Old May 4, 2009 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by importjake00
So I decided to dance tonight and I took a little video..

here ya go


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-67Xt5R8DY

ROFL! Thats great...
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Old May 4, 2009 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by importjake00
So I decided to dance tonight and I took a little video..

here ya go


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-67Xt5R8DY
Didn't realize dancing excited you that much or did you just stuff that leotard???
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Old May 4, 2009 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by importjake00
I figured since everyone has one, they must be decent bikes. I just don't know much about anything with two wheels and I am looking to get a bike within the next month or so. I rode my brothers a bunch today for the first time, and I would love to have one for the summer coming up.
What do you mean, I thought you already had a bike:

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Old May 4, 2009 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by yahu
You are completely right but a year ago she probably wouldn't have had the same issue which is why I call this fallout from the economy. Is it a bad thing overall? For a big chunk of the population, clearly not. For Jenni? I honestly don't know but she is at least responsible enough to save up the down payment, which a lot of people in the last decade or so haven't been doing well.
The last 4 or 5 years were an anomaly in the history of consumer credit. A lot of people got loans that shouldn't have. But yes, the (over)reaction has been to tighten credit to the point where even people with good (but not great) credit histories are having trouble getting loans. It's more obvious in the home loan sector.
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