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Old May 17, 2012 | 12:53 PM
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Yesterday afternoon, I had the opportunity to start the initial tuning with Tom. We started around 1600 military time and did not finish until around 2300. Yes, seven hours later as my neighbors called the cops as the car is pretty loud. The tuning consisted of trying to troubleshoot what seems to be an endless list of possible reasons why the initial start and idle is so horrible. Tom worked with me beyond what I could have ever imagined. After remoting into my laptop, Tom tried one thing after another and we could not figure out what the issues were. Even after I was told to stop by the cops, Tom still wanted to continue if I could make it to the closest McDonalds. I had to decline as I had to get up at 0400 for work. I will say that Tom is awesome and truly treated my car as if it were his and I will assume with a great degree of certainty, that he has gone as far as 99% of people that would have given up. This evening, I have to boost leak the car for sure. Also, we are going to look at a speed density conversion as I could be experiencing interference between the Tial VTA and the stock MAF sensor. I will keep everyone updated and posted.
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Old May 17, 2012 | 12:57 PM
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Yeah that tial is prob reaking havac on the car right now with the maf in the car. Another thing too is if at all possible do a boost leak test to see if theres anything leaking.
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Old May 17, 2012 | 02:01 PM
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Yeah that tial is prob reaking havac on the car right now with the maf in the car. Another thing too is if at all possible do a boost leak test to see if theres anything leaking.
Very true. I will do the boost leak test when I get home from work today.
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Old May 17, 2012 | 07:32 PM
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speed density fixed it.. it must of had a lot of vacuum leaks.
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Old May 18, 2012 | 04:59 AM
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speed density fixed it.. it must of had a lot of vacuum leaks.
It sure did, my friend. And you were able to accomplish getting the car to start on the first time I fired it up. It is a shame that I have neighbors that like to exercise the "call the cop" option since my car is a bit loud at night. Oh well...

Today, I will see about getting that boost leak test done. The reason why I was unable to get it done yesterday is because the coupler I have if 4" and the inlet to the EF4 is 3". I have downloaded a few "how to" threads to build one to the right specifications if I cannot find the right reducer locally during lunch today.

You have the patience of a saint with all of the issues Megatron is having.
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Old May 18, 2012 | 05:03 AM
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Thumbs up Quiz 2 - Name That Part

Fellahs,

Yesterday, as I was looking for my 4BAR sensor, I stumbled across the part below. I have bought so many parts since being in Afghanistan that I have no idea what it is. It has what appears to be on oxygen sensor to one end and to the other end, the same connection as I see on my Tactrix cable. Can someone please tell me what this is in the event that it is needed? Thanks.








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Old May 18, 2012 | 05:51 AM
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Looks like a gimic and not needed at all, it looks like a version of an iat sensor. I have been meaning to ask you if your egr was blocked off? If it wasn't that could be a possible source of where things could have been leaking from. Glad to hear the sd fixed the problem.
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Old May 18, 2012 | 06:19 AM
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Looks like a gimic and not needed at all, it looks like a version of an iat sensor. I have been meaning to ask you if your egr was blocked off? If it wasn't that could be a possible source of where things could have been leaking from. Glad to hear the sd fixed the problem.
A gimic...? I doubt it. It has to be part of something that I bought. I am thinking that it was part of the speed density "bundle" that I purchased from MAP. I am scratching my head on this one. I am trying to make sure that I have what is needed before I buy a loggable wideband as that is what I am searching for. The EVO Pro Sport wideband is not supported by EVO Scan and Tom needs one that is loggable to finish the tune.

As for the EGR being blocked off, I will check on that as it has slipped my mind.

Yes, the speed density fixed the problem and now I have to ensure that I have no boost leaks and find the correct wideband.
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Old May 18, 2012 | 06:25 AM
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This is A Win Setup!
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Old May 18, 2012 | 07:19 AM
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Fellahs,

Yesterday, as I was looking for my 4BAR sensor, I stumbled across the part below. I have bought so many parts since being in Afghanistan that I have no idea what it is. It has what appears to be on oxygen sensor to one end and to the other end, the same connection as I see on my Tactrix cable. Can someone please tell me what this is in the event that it is needed? Thanks.









That is a intake air temp sensor, probably for your zeitronix.

A "gimic?" What the heck is that... lol...
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Old May 18, 2012 | 07:56 AM
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This is A Win Setup!
Thanks, my friend. I really appreciate it.
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Old May 18, 2012 | 07:59 AM
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That is a intake air temp sensor, probably for your zeitronix.

A "gimic?" What the heck is that... lol...
Adam,

I do not have a Zeitronix. I am scratching my head. Oh well, I will just sell it since I do not need it. I was sort. Of thrown off by the gimmick remark as well. . We are all family here. I have to find a loggable wideband pretty quickly.
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Old May 18, 2012 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by cursedsm
Looks like a gimic and not needed at all, it looks like a version of an iat sensor. ...
Its an IAT sensor for speed density. There are several ways to implement IAT for SD. The simplest but least accurate is to approximate IAT using fuel tank temperature. What is shown in the pictures is the SpoolinUp IAT sensor with a plug that mates to the MAF harness plug and allows a simple way to integrate IAT without cutting any wires or fiddling with pins on the ECU plug. It obviously does require either drilling/tapping the IM or welding a bung to the UICP. No way around that if real IAT is desired.
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Old May 18, 2012 | 08:27 AM
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why dont you have a slip on muffler that without any tools slides over your tail pipe that you just quickly put on while running the engine at home. have a quiet exhaust also helps hear unsual engine noises that may need attention.
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Old May 18, 2012 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Adam Brunson
That is a intake air temp sensor, probably for your zeitronix.

A "gimic?" What the heck is that... lol...
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Its an IAT sensor for speed density. There are several ways to implement IAT for SD. The simplest but least accurate is to approximate IAT using fuel tank temperature. What is shown in the pictures is the SpoolinUp IAT sensor with a plug that mates to the MAF harness plug and allows a simple way to integrate IAT without cutting any wires or fiddling with pins on the ECU plug. It obviously does require either drilling/tapping the IM or welding a bung to the UICP. No way around that if real IAT is desired.
Yeah I thought it looked like an Iat sensor. But I am wondering why it wouldnt plug right into the the maf plug, or something like that. I am aware of they can plug into multi spots in the ecu, but it just looks odd to me. I have had both iat and fuel temp wires versions of speed density in my car it just confused me with where it plugs in.
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