Thank you. I will share them when I get some numbers

 

I already want to take a ride in this monster! YES, people on the drivability. Tom, wasn't joking. when he mentioned anyone he tunes would know what he's talking about. I was totally blown away after he got done with my car. Making over 750+whp drives like butter way better then stock. That's sd,big injectors, stock ecu etc.. I'll try to catch a video next time. When I'm cruising around town . Looking forward to the final touch on this BEAST. Lol I think I'm more excited to see your numbers. Then I was to seeing my own.

 

Thanks the kind words JP! Most people don't realize there's way more to tuning then dyno sheets. I am to meticulous and picky of an individual to let something go unless its working perfectly so i mastered my craft and am still learning as i go to this day.

 

Heres an update:

I took my car out on Sunday and last minute asked my Dad if he wanted to go for a ride. Well I forgot I had the passenger seat out, so I was like uh, you're gonna have to sit in the back. Then I realized I had removed the seat belts in the back haha. So I said, Alright hold on, I'm just going to put the seat in. It should be in anyways. An hr later + after vacuuming the car out, I put the seat in.

So I installed the front passenger seat, went to start car, battery was dead. So we put it on the charger, then it finally fired. I need to get a new red top this ones trashed I think. It will not hold a charge very long.

So we drove, And since I had the car idling for quite a bit prior to this, The oil temp was pretty hot. So I went up the road then got on highway.

I got into it in 2nd for a second just to show him how it was, and he said he felt like he was half sick and told me not to do it again. Said its to much for the street, and that it was ridiculous and felt wicked. He said he never felt anything so wicked in all his life. Hes been in my old setup at 590WHP~ (not when it was 660WHP though), so he knows what it feels like at that power level.

I glanced at the boost gauge since it was only 2nd gear and a little over 60F so roads were nice and warm, I don't know what I was reading because I felt weird looking down with the car pulling that hard, but I glanced I think I seen 34psi but not 100%.

Car is still on my basemaps and nothing was done yet power wise to extract anything from it. Afraid to know what the AFR was, given the condition of the gas tank at the time, but it was rich enough to make some serious power.

Then on the way back from the drive we took, The car started acting really screwy. Bogging, Hesitating, If I floored it, It just fully cut off. It was like an off switch over 3k RPM.

I didn't know what was going on. I turned the car off then turned it back on, then I could all the sudden rev again past 3500 no problems, then driving a little more and the symptoms returned.

I got the car home by turning it off and on a few times & letting it cool off thinking the cam sensor was getting hot.

I got the car home, and on the way home, half way I noticed the pump screaming REAL loud. So loud it sounded like a huge external pump. I figured then it was definitely the pump either going bad or something else.

I got the car home, and after screwing with it a bit, turning it off and on, noticing how it would just cut off at 3500, I figured I'm gonna check the pumps.

Well I opened the fuel tank up, And to my surprise I see a disgusting mess that looked like a swamp.

pics:

You can see here its the filter not the pump. The filters clogged, making it sound like the pump is dead.



The disgusting mess. Normally this looks so clear you cant tell there's fuel in the tank it looks bone dry usually due to the fuel being so clear. Not this time.



This side looks better, ( the passenger side saddle, but still not as clear as it normally is.)




So I drained the driver side saddle via the return line & fuel pump activation in evoscan. To my surprise when you do this it only drains the driver saddle, so if you do this thinking you are draining all the gas out via the return you are very wrong. The passenger side still had about 3-4 gallons in it!

I will share pics after i clean / restore the tank. I am not going to treat it or anything, just use scotch bright pads and fuel and clean the floor out and the sides.

what caused this?:


Here's what I think happened.

The wreck jarred/knocked loose all the dirt/rust deposits, whatever in the tank and since i didnt check the tank or do anything inspection wise there it mixed around and got all dirty.

The last time i had this tank open it was crystal clear and not one spec of rust anywhere to be seen.

Im glad i found the issue though. and ill stop typing by saying at whatever power level the car was in that short 2000RPM band (4-6k) 2nd gear pull, it felt 10x faster then my old fp black setup at 36psi.

This was the first time i heard the dump actually open also in boost. haha. that was a relief it actually opened up lol.

After I fix this fueling issue, all i have to do yet is fix the driveshaft bracket from rubbing the exhaust pipe and the car is 100%.

 

It looks like a dirty pond! That is crazy the car even ran like that! I bet it doesn't help the gas sat in there for a long time. Super weird but yea I agree mud was everywhere when you crashed.

 

Ya it looked like a swamp. All I can think is the impact from when the car came back down just shocked the gas tank and everything came off the sides / floor and stuff and made a huge mess.

Before the wreck it was crystal clear looking. you couldn't tell there was fuel in there unless you put your hands in it and splashed it around.

I got it much better now, but its still not as clean as it was before. I'm gonna run it threw a tank then change the filters out. I got 10 replacements here and two pumps, but im not replacing the pumps because after i cleaned the filters i couldn't hear the pumps like normal again.







After I get this fully resolved. I will tune it for some power and post some videos of the speedo up with the go pro

 

Interesting that u used evoscan to drain the tank. I normally do the 12mm bolt on the drivers side of the tank and jack up the passengers side to insure all the fuel is out. Then I will splash some race gas in it to make sure nothing but race gas is coming out.

Hopefully you get it tuned soon. I'm excited to see what your car is going to do this year! Good luck Tom.

 

this car will be nasty for sure !!!!!!

 

If I known how easy it was to drain from under i would of done that only.

5min driving and its clogged again and pumps screaming. Got one quick 2nd gear pull. I better tune the damn thing. I have no self control, the minute i start driving it i lay into it without even thinking. its just comes naturally. I cant stay out of it.

I guess brown e85 is a no go. It just clogged so quick. I'm letting the car idle now to get rid of whats in there then i will take another car to the gas station and fill it with fresh gas with containers.

I am going to inspect the inline fuelab filter also.

Thank you! I definitely need it with this damn thing.

Ya it will be if it ever stops having fueling issues!

 

Took it out again and went 12-14AFR in boost. I think the inline filter is now clogged. It is a 6 micron fiberglass filter. I will be able to swap that out next week.

I logged it, it is running 33psi on wastegate pressure. i wish it wouldn't be running that high of boost with this fueling issue but o well.

its seeing 30psi by about 4800RPM right now punching it at 4400RPM.

Its comical to me how i can tune all these cars and my personal one is giving me all the problems. I guess this cars getting back at me for calling it a POS so many times.

My fuel system consists of:

a Buschur double pumper where i replaced both pumps and modded them, and last night put in new fresh filters. Primary pump went from being loud at idle to now with your ear up to the housing with seats and the black cover off you cannot hear it so it is fixed in that regard.

-8 AN feedline going through a Fuelab 818 inline filter with a 6 micron fiberglass filter element.

The return line is being ran through the factory feedline.

And the fuel rail is an AMS fuel rail with 2150cc FIC in it.

At this point i think the inline filter is clogged. But im also kind of curious if others think a 6 micron filter is to much restriction for the fuel flow?

 

Interesting point Tom. I'm curious to see what other have to say as well.

 

Tom,
Why not just go ahead and replace the fuel filter and then check that the second pump is coming on in boost. 6 micron is fine. If the filter worked before, it should work now. It may have actually saved your injectors from clogging. Good luck.

 

I believe the original kit uses a 10 micron filter, I couldn't find a part number on it so I just snagged a random 10. Seems to be working fine so far for me, but I've only got about 400 miles on E85 total lol.

 

This is a new fuel system setup. I never ran this before on my old setup. Before it was Aeroquip -6 feed, stock return, Kinsler inline paper filter and same rail & inj & pumps.

I bet the inline filter is clogged badly. The primary fuel pump (the one that always runs) the filter/sock attached to the pump was all but solid brown as you seen in the pictures i posted above a few days ago.

I think if that filter got like that, then the inline must be clogged, because the micron rating on the pumps & socks is i believe around 40-70 which the larger the micron the bigger the holes, so the less filtering.

So the 6 micron on the inline feed im sure it did save my injectors from clogging or getting destroyed and such.

When I get some time tomorrow ill yank the inline and take some pics of the filter.

to be more precise the old setup was:

Buschur double pumper
aeroquip AQP socketless -6 feedline
Stock return line
Kinsler inline fuel filter (same one from buschur kit)
FIC 2150cc inj
AMS Fuel rail
Stock FPR

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New setup is the same except for:

Goodridge 910 Kevlar teflon -8 feedline
Factory feedline now being used as return line
Fuelab 818 inline filter (-8 AN) /w 6 micron fiberglass filter

 

i switched the inline filter and the problem is fixed now. i put a paper element in it temp though since that's all i had.

First few pulls felt really fast. its still on wastegate pressure 33psi. i got the same feeling when i crashed it taking it out in 3rd gear. its to much for the street at 33psi. atleast for now for me it is.

I felt like i was not in control of it i had to let off the gas its that fast. NOTHING compared to my old fp black setup.

felt like a weird feeling i never felt before. like a weightless feeling like the cars floating and you have no control. scary beyond fun type feeling. maybe its because it was the first pull and my body had to adjust to it i dont know. once the fueling issue came back it started feeling slower though.

on the way back doing prob about 20 pulls though combined 2-3-4 the fueling issue came back again. pump is screaming loud again which indicates the sock/filter is probably clogged on it.

now can you guys do me a favor and take pics of your fuel? if you have any in a tank pour in a small glass or something so i can see what color it is.

When i tested this e85 i got from the pump it had a yellowish/brown tint to it. it normally is clear like water from what i remember. so i feel like its dirty fuel but im not 100%.

Before the fueling issue i registered 636tq @ 32psi in 3rd gear. i am not sharing everything here ill save it for the dyno section of forum, but i figured id share some power graph for now.



This is what happens when the cars loaded up in 3rd. Teaser: