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Back story:
I purchased my 2004 Apex silver evo 8 3 years ago from Maryland. While driving the car home from Maryland I ended up windowing the block and trashing the head.
1st rebuild I bought a new map block with the works(2.0L), used head(it had the works), ect the car spun a bearing at 500 miles.
2nd rebuild I got fed up and sent it to ESPEC for a rebuild(piston,rods,crank, oiling, ect) then had tons of oil leaks, boost leaks, ect. Started noticing the oil had a goldish tint after about 1k miles but nothing in the oil filter. Drove the car for another 100 miles and broke the transmission. At this point it I ended up pulling the engine to inspect the bearings and sending the trans to TRE. Let's just say my bearings are trashed, the cylinder ways are trashed. I pulled measurement for PTW, Mains, Rods, Trust and everything was crazy loose and different across the board. Mains\Rods were .005-.009, PTW were .007, ect. I wanted to double check my numbers were correct and sent it out the machine shop...Guess what, it was the same. The block had a repair sleeve, the main are trashed from being aligned hone correctly. On the plus side, the crank/rods/pistons(need to be recoated) are ok. At this point i've given up and listed the shell for sale. After a few days of thinking I decided to keep it and get it done as I love the evo platform.
3rd rebuild:
Block:
4G64 2.2L
Head: GSC S2(From 2nd rebuild) - GSC S3 Street ported(From 2nd rebuild) Head Games Pocket port R head Ferra Valves
Kiggly HLA(From 2nd rebuild)
CB Ported stock IM(From 2nd rebuild)
FB 70mm TB(From 2nd rebuild)
Drivetrain:
TRE Transfer case
TRE Transmission(Not sure on the FD yet)
Sheps 12plate rear diff(From 2nd rebuild)
This is the order I'll be following.
TRE Transfer Case - Completed
Wavetrac LSD
Rebuild
Upgraded bolts
TRE Transmission - Completed
4.11 FD(HKS)
Evo 9 1st, Evo 8 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th.
Complete Rebuilt
Buschur Racing Stage2 Head: - Wiith Buschur HeadGames Street Port(Because Jimmy is a thief and a ****ing liar)
HeadGames Street Port
Ferrae Valves
Kiggly Springs and Ti Retainers
GSC S3
GSC Zero tick lifers
AEM Adjustable cam gears
MorrisonFab T4 Twinscroll Kit- Completed
2.2L 4G64(David Buschur,) - Completed
Callies Billet 94mm Crank
Callies Ultra I Beams
Manley Custom 2.2l 87mm piston(9ish:1)
ARP Mains
Balance shaft delete
AEM Infinity with CD7
Updates:
6/21/2020:
TRE Transfercase received!
Head shipped out
Waiting for TRE box for transmission
7/22/2020:
Transmission shipped out to TRE
AEM Camgears received
GSC S3 cams ordered(Sold S2)
8/28/2020:
TRE Completed the Transmission rebuild.
1/11/2021:
ACT Twin Disc arrived(T2S-M01)
All OEM gaskets expect the Headgaskey
Evo 9 Oil filter housing
FIC 2150CC
Aeromotive FPR
KLM 4.5in Intercooler
Update 2/17/2021:
The parts below came in
ER 4g64 modified waterpump arrived
Tial MV-S gates arrived(back order for a couple of months)
Koyo Evo 4/5/6 radiator
Fluidampr crank pulley
Turbo oil feed line
timing tools
EvoSpec Ti Exhaust manifold bolts and crank bolt
Update 5/14/2021:
Well, still nothing from buschur racing about my block and head. I was to start the credit card charge back for the block but can't do it for the head. Looks like I'm taking a loss on the head and $1500. Currently in the process of filing a police report for the head/money.
All other parts(Minus Head/Block) are here -_-
PTE 6466 T4 divided 1.15 came in
Update 5/17/2021:
Bought another head, going to be sending out to head games.
Update 6/10/2021:
Bought good used 4g64 core. Waiting on that before I can start the build again.
The head passed headgames inspection and is in queue.
Build is
CNC Street port with hand blending
Bronze guides
Ferrea 1826 Intake Valves
Ferrea 1825 Exhaust Valves
New locks
Kiggly Hi-Pressure valve springs
Kiggly HLA
Arlington Machining over size headstud washers
GSC S3
ARP 625 studs
Update 7/16/2021
Ordered a 2.2l block from David Buschur. Rotating assembly(Buschur supplied) is in-house
Build is
Callies 94mm Knife Edge Billet Crank
Callies 156mm I-Beam Rods
Manley 2.2l 4g64 pistons(8.5/9:1)
BR suppling bearings, main rods, BS delete, ect
Update 7/21/2021
David Buschur finished the block and will be shipping out tomorrow
Update 8/2/2021
HeadGames Street port head arrived today!
Update 9/9/2021
Block arrived today!
Buschur's LLC 2.2L 4g64
Callies 156mm Ultra I Beam
Callies 94mm Billet Knife edge crank
Manley Pistons
ARP Mains
ACL Race bearings
O-ringed
Update 9/12/2021
Got the block on the stand
head torqued down
Update 8/2/2022
Tune Completed.
Well, here’s what happened.
car made 792hp/650tq @ 42psi on e75. Had to stop because it started to drop fuel pressure up top. Guessing the dual 450s and stock fuel lines held it back. Going to upgrade the lines and pumps in the winter and go back.
dialed the car back to 38psi to keep things safe. Still seems like a torquey street monster.
it's coming along!
Still waiting on buschur(Jimmy for the block and head(hopefully shipping this week)...Never happened.
Thats a series of unfortunate events. Hope you get it sorted.
Have you considered selling your crank and going to a 94mm so the car will drive better and have a larger powerband?
Before you choose your turbo I would lay out what your power goals . This platform at 600-750whp seems to live well when done correctly. A smaller turbo would have better transient response and may be more fun. The new Garret series looks promising.
Thats a series of unfortunate events. Hope you get it sorted.
Have you considered selling your crank and going to a 94mm so the car will drive better and have a larger powerband?
Before you choose your turbo I would lay out what your power goals . This platform at 600-750whp seems to live well when done correctly. A smaller turbo would have better transient response and may be more fun. The new Garret series looks promising.
Yes it is!
The goal is to hit 725-760whp with the max RPM at 8500(maybe 9k if I can). I'd assume the 94mm crank will be a 2.2L?
I don't plan on using the old crank, pistons, and rods for this build.
The goal is to hit 725-760whp with the max RPM at 8500(maybe 9k if I can). I'd assume the 94mm crank will be a 2.2L?
I don't plan on using the old crank, pistons, and rods for this build.
Yes, a 94mm would be fine. I'm using an early billet Manley 94mm and its fine. Tune up is important regardless of whatever crank is used.
A 2.2 4g63 with 153mm rods works out to be 9400 or so for recommended max piston speed. So with a taller block and 156mm rods 9400+ is feasible. May also want to get the ER oil pump gear to slow the pump down.
Some people including myself prefer the 63 block for more surface area for the head /gasket to bolt to. If you are doing the 64 block, may be a good idea to have a machine shop add a fire ring.
Definitely build a 2.2L/94mm crank if your short block hasnt been started yet. You can run a 156mm rod with the appropriate piston compression height.
I will have g30-770 results this weekend. Hoping for 650whp on the "kill" tune.
The 6466 will do 750whp with those smaller cams and stock intake manifold in the ver upper 30's, maybe 40psi of boost. It'll be in boost by about 4600-4700rpm with the twinscroll hotside in 1.15ar.
Last edited by letsgetthisdone; Apr 28, 2020 at 04:46 PM.
I ordered the morrison fab stock placement TS kit since it has a 17 week lead time. The original plan was to go with a head games head but it was ported from the last build so I'm going with a buschur rebuild/refresh stage 2 head.
I haven't ordered the block yet as I don't want to have it sitting in the garage collecting dust and possibly rusting. Going to order that once I have all the parts to assemble the block.
Since the bearings were ****ed from the second build I want to get a new oil filter housing and oil pan unless these parts can be thoroughly cleaned. Has anyone successfully clean and reused these parts?
