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i want to open a dialog between the admins and members of the north texas region and its vendors.
first from our point of view:
1) no rules were broken, yet both robertK and SASD209 are treating this issue like our threads (which are very informative and useful) are breaking rules/cluttering the internet/causing problems/running people away from evom. RobertK has repeatedly deleted threads by vendors about events hosted by them. this has been an issue in the past, and the reason there is a sticky at the top of the south region called "events: please read". if we were not breaking any rules by making informative posts, what was the problem that required combining everything into 1? if clutter is the problem, wouldn't making the event schedule a sticky so we don't need to make a new post every time help?
2) my comments about robert that you deleted SAS, were well deserved on his part by his post concerning my questions. his comment was rude, and uncalled for. ask anyone from our region who has tried to deal with him the response he gives. the answer is always unwilling to negotiate, and "xxxx and I had separate talks w/ him and both of us got irrational, inflamatory responses that made us both individuallly realize we were mistaken to have even corresponded w/him in the first place"
3)is this the image Internet brands wants to be portrayed by? - we don't need your money or your vendors. we have vendors lined up out the door waiting to pay to advertise. - we don't want your clutter in the south region so go make your own webpage and keep your traffic off ours
"Nobody is running anybody off....we're just not caving into demands that we do not see a compelling reason for. We were offering a solution for your posting problem...if it takes traffic away but makes the most sense for your club, so be it. "
we didn't have any demands. we asked a simple question, can we have a moderator? - no can we have a subforum? -no ok, no big deal, we will just keep doing what we have always done. then you go and say we are cluttering the internet? and merge everything into one? how does that solve anything. i even asked a question about the use of the social groups functio that has been added recently, and you deleted it.
i don't know what to do. i think many of the other car clubs/regions would like a better way of communicating as well and possibly admin/mods can use user feedback to improve the webpage rather then shoving everything in the regional sites into a corner.
first from our point of view:
1) no rules were broken, yet both robertK and SASD209 are treating this issue like our threads (which are very informative and useful) are breaking rules/cluttering the internet/causing problems/running people away from evom. RobertK has repeatedly deleted threads by vendors about events hosted by them. this has been an issue in the past, and the reason there is a sticky at the top of the south region called "events: please read". if we were not breaking any rules by making informative posts, what was the problem that required combining everything into 1? if clutter is the problem, wouldn't making the event schedule a sticky so we don't need to make a new post every time help?
2) my comments about robert that you deleted SAS, were well deserved on his part by his post concerning my questions. his comment was rude, and uncalled for. ask anyone from our region who has tried to deal with him the response he gives. the answer is always unwilling to negotiate, and "xxxx and I had separate talks w/ him and both of us got irrational, inflamatory responses that made us both individuallly realize we were mistaken to have even corresponded w/him in the first place"
3)is this the image Internet brands wants to be portrayed by? - we don't need your money or your vendors. we have vendors lined up out the door waiting to pay to advertise. - we don't want your clutter in the south region so go make your own webpage and keep your traffic off ours
"Nobody is running anybody off....we're just not caving into demands that we do not see a compelling reason for. We were offering a solution for your posting problem...if it takes traffic away but makes the most sense for your club, so be it. "
we didn't have any demands. we asked a simple question, can we have a moderator? - no can we have a subforum? -no ok, no big deal, we will just keep doing what we have always done. then you go and say we are cluttering the internet? and merge everything into one? how does that solve anything. i even asked a question about the use of the social groups functio that has been added recently, and you deleted it.
i don't know what to do. i think many of the other car clubs/regions would like a better way of communicating as well and possibly admin/mods can use user feedback to improve the webpage rather then shoving everything in the regional sites into a corner.
If you want to bring up some of the old stuff, what about the Free Cody/Free whoever else that got banned spam that NTEC did a few years ago? It was all over evo general and every other section you all could possibly post in. Do you know how much hassle that caused the Mod staff? "NTEC's at it again" was a common phrase.
how many points/bans did it take before someone got a vending package?
How many times has various NTEC members posted content that isn't allowed on here? Everything from street racing to nudity, all here in the South region.
How many times has entire NTEC groups gone to bash vendors (Dynoflash comes to mind)
As for me deleting threads, we have a mod forum, if there is a controversy about a delete or possible delete, it gets posted there. Of all the events that I deleted, 1 was ruled that it probably shouldn't have been. 1. out of the probably hundreds that was deleted in the South region alone. That thread was edited to take out the parts that shouldn't be in there and put back in the south forum.
I don't have a problem with anyone that is NTEC, I just want you to obey the site rules as everyone else does.
If you want to bring up some of the old stuff, what about the Free Cody/Free whoever else that got banned spam that NTEC did a few years ago? It was all over evo general and every other section you all could possibly post in. Do you know how much hassle that caused the Mod staff? "NTEC's at it again" was a common phrase. .
has it helped my business? absolutely. has my posting on evoM helped evom users? absolutely.
As for me deleting threads, we have a mod forum, if there is a controversy about a delete or possible delete, it gets posted there. Of all the events that I deleted, 1 was ruled that it probably shouldn't have been. 1. out of the probably hundreds that was deleted in the South region alone. That thread was edited to take out the parts that shouldn't be in there and put back in the south forum.
I don't have a problem with anyone that is NTEC, I just want you to obey the site rules as everyone else does.
I don't have a problem with anyone that is NTEC, I just want you to obey the site rules as everyone else does.
i've offered some ideas up with admins and other vendors/NTEC members on how we can resolve this issue so hopefully we can come to a peaceful agreement!
I'm glad you have such a grasp of our business model, but you're quite mistaken. We have a waiting list of people waiting to become Vendors here, and the support of IB means that we can pick and choose with whom we want to do business with. We do not need to accept every new Vendor just to stay afloat. We would rather screen the Vendors and make sure they offer a good product and fit with our community than accept everybody who will pay. Short of it is, we don't need the money, we can be choosy.
The simple fact is that internet advertising is a very up and down (and a LOT down these days) business. To say that IB is turning away business is laughable. Sure there are likely vendors that don't qualify and you're turning them down, but there likely isn't a 20 deep queue of vendors waiting in the eves.
I've been in the internet marketing business long enough to see the VERY high and the very very very lows. EvoM and the other IB brands have a strong foothold into high value/high traffic niche market websites. While that's worth "something," quantifying that "something" is hard to do. Shareholders don't care about millions of impressions or posts. They care about profitability. IB is profitable by placing ads and taking payments from sponsors and vendors.
we had a thread on here about it and the mods consider it a "mexico only" type activity. Rather than run the risk of more points on my license and more deleted threads, let's keep this thread about the meet at the starting point.
It's my understanding that there should be a large contingency of cars of the "I'd give my right nut to own" variety in attendance.
It's my understanding that there should be a large contingency of cars of the "I'd give my right nut to own" variety in attendance.
when did all of this crap go down? i've read the last two pages and i'm pissed. this merge has caused more problems than it solved.
Andrew as far as mods owning the cars. I LIVE with a mod. Not this forum but he doesn't own a single car from that manufacture. Living with a mod does give me some insight on what all goes on. however NTEC taking over the south forum is a load of bs.
Andrew as far as mods owning the cars. I LIVE with a mod. Not this forum but he doesn't own a single car from that manufacture. Living with a mod does give me some insight on what all goes on. however NTEC taking over the south forum is a load of bs.
By posting NTEC , in the titles we simply were keeping the north texas related threads easier to read and distinguishable away from the other people say in Louisiana or kansas. Its the same as posting a state in the title like "texas owners" instead it's NTEC owners... this mega thread is pointless and confusing thanks for helping us out i guess..
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