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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 01:48 PM
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I agree lol

zeitronix ftmfl- so Jeff re-installed it today and guess what, it still fawking sucks. So much for an accurate wideband POS waste of money.

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meh next time you go visit you sis, mindaswell and have then install it for you... see what happens then
Old Feb 24, 2008 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Evo Girlie
I agree lol

zeitronix ftmfl- so Jeff re-installed it today and guess what, it still fawking sucks. So much for an accurate wideband POS waste of money.

venting
pm me your pp address...don't expect a response your user name don't work.
Old Feb 24, 2008 | 03:03 PM
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Hey everyone! It's official, I got married! yeaaaahhhhhh!!!!!!

Hope all is well with you all.
Let the persecution begin.
Old Feb 24, 2008 | 03:50 PM
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The zeitronix wideband was tested in my own car with Yadi's unit and O2 sensor, TTP's zt2/Yadi's O2 sensor, Yadi's zt2 and TTP's O2 sensor and Yadi's zt2 and O2 sensor again. All of the tested revealed that you could not tell apart any of the AFR tests outside of no EGT input on Yadi's wideband tests as it was not wired up at the time.

We would gladly buy back the unit as they are difficult to keep in stock. No one has exhibited any accuracy issues with the zeitronix.

We were so confident in the wideband's tested performance that we were willing to conduct a whole dynotuning day using her wideband, but chose against it as we did not want to be accused of incurring additional wear on her product.

Yadi's method of testing is a strange, 3rd gear pull, brake, 3rd gear pull, brake and another 3rd gear pull in a row where coolant temperatures are elevated from the repeated pull and she reports a richer AFR on the final pull, naturally.

To reiterate, we would gladly take back the unit.

1. Zeitronix the unit engineer and manufacturer of the wideband has reviewed the logs and found the unit to be accurate.

2. Evolutionm.net administrator has reviewed the datalogs and found them to be identical between our unit and Yadi's unit.

3. I have personally tested Yadi's unit and found it to be as accurate as my own wideband in my car.


Yadi did not send back the boost sensor or main electrical wiring harness back for testing so we used the same one as connected to my own car for all tests.

Unless the wiring that is hooked to her car, that she did not send is not hooked up correctly, the wideband has been thoroughly checked.

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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
The zeitronix wideband was tested in my own car with Yadi's unit and O2 sensor, TTP's zt2/Yadi's O2 sensor, Yadi's zt2 and TTP's O2 sensor and Yadi's zt2 and O2 sensor again. All of the tested revealed that you could not tell apart any of the AFR tests outside of no EGT input on Yadi's wideband tests as it was not wired up at the time.

We would gladly buy back the unit as they are difficult to keep in stock. No one has exhibited any accuracy issues with the zeitronix.

We were so confident in the wideband's tested performance that we were willing to conduct a whole dynotuning day using her wideband, but chose against it as we did not want to be accused of incurring additional wear on her product.

Yadi's method of testing is a strange, 3rd gear pull, brake, 3rd gear pull, brake and another 3rd gear pull in a row where coolant temperatures are elevated from the repeated pull and she reports a richer AFR on the final pull, naturally.

To reiterate, we would gladly take back the unit.

1. Zeitronix the unit engineer and manufacturer of the wideband has reviewed the logs and found the unit to be accurate.

2. Evolutionm.net administrator has reviewed the datalogs and found them to be identical between our unit and Yadi's unit.

3. I have personally tested Yadi's unit and found it to be as accurate as my own wideband in my car.


Yadi did not send back the boost sensor or main electrical wiring harness back for testing so we used the same one as connected to my own car for all tests.

Unless the wiring that is hooked to her car, that she did not send is not hooked up correctly, the wideband has been thoroughly checked.
I've personally taken off and installed this zt2 setup a handful of times. going from 11.4 one run to 10.6 is strange. I love my setup and i am very pleased with it. The wideband portion of yadi's zt2 is just confusing.

Glad you're willing to do what is necessary.
Old Feb 24, 2008 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Evoryder
pm me your pp address...don't expect a response your user name don't work.
will pm u shortly.


Scott: the only things i did not send u was the boost sensor because its working fine my car is boosting fine and the lcd screen which is just the display. We spoke on aim already and as u say when the innovative wideband is tested, it was tested in their own facility w their own people. Well i can think the same of ur test, honestly 2 many people see it is not working propertly but hey i am just lying out of my a$$. I thought we had arranged the outcome on aim earlier, also i should get a copy of the logs as wel i mean ZT themselves did.

back to stress, I will not go ove this again, as said in our conv you know what i am hoping for as a result if it does not take place then we shall see what I will do next.

Far as I see it there were 2 things in question and

cams I was right on and went through the trouble to find out and uninstall it. Proven it was the wrong cams. I am still waiting for an apology for the trouble seriously that is the least u could do cuz regardless wha u think happened it is ur company who i bought it from and that means it is ur responsiblity.

ZT- well i'm not an expert but if i see it everyday and it does not seem like its acting proper then well what am i gonna think. I contacted u within a month or 2 when i bought it expressing my concern and i got every other fault in the world besides the unit. Went from tuner,bosch sensor to w.e else and even w ur tune it acted up and with Brads boost sensor the wideband was still acting stupid. Also few people have seen it but as u said before i am not an wideband expert nor do I claim to be.

u can take the zt2 back as u noted u would buy it back w no problem,w the boost option on march 8th when u are down installing my cams, if its 2 much trouble for u to take it off i will make sure i have a friend with me that will do me the favor for the gazillion times.

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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Evoryder
I've personally taken off and installed this zt2 setup a handful of times. going from 11.4 one run to 10.6 is strange. I love my setup and i am very pleased with it. The wideband portion of yadi's zt2 is just confusing.

Glad you're willing to do what is necessary.
Glad you like it and that yours works flawlessly as mine does.
Old Feb 24, 2008 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
Glad you like it and that yours works flawlessly as mine does.
very convenient to quote the positive right

Thanx Jeff once again, i shoulda gone w my gut instint and sold this pos but then again i am not the type to fawk some1 else over. Eh
Old Feb 24, 2008 | 06:11 PM
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The best direction is for us to take the unit back. You cannot be made happy.
Old Feb 25, 2008 | 03:39 AM
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....it seems that way.
Old Feb 25, 2008 | 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
The best direction is for us to take the unit back. You cannot be made happy.
that works for me, i would though think twice before selling the unit to some1 else. You don't wanna be stuck w another unhappy customer. PM me how much credit I will b guetting for the wideband and boost option zt2.

GM guys/Gals- another monday ftl
Old Feb 25, 2008 | 05:03 AM
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Let the persecution begin.
ha ha, and to top it off she's has a psycology degree as well so I'm in deep deep DEEP doo doo!
Old Feb 25, 2008 | 05:06 AM
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Oh BTW, I must sell my Evo IX. I can't keep it. It has just 12K miles and I'm selling it for 24,500. Its in perfect condition and hasn't been molested with a crap load of mods. All it has is a flash and exhaust.

Let me know.
Old Feb 25, 2008 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr Evo
ha ha, and to top it off she's has a psycology degree as well so I'm in deep deep DEEP doo doo!
Have you tried any bs yet to see if she has an advanced degree ?
Old Feb 25, 2008 | 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
The best direction is for us to take the unit back. You cannot be made happy.
It's all about making the customer happy.Nothing else matters.



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