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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 07:10 AM
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So from my understanding, Magnus is renting out their dyno to us, and Marco from magnus will be tuning the X's, so technically they arent renting it out if their own guy is tuning it at their own shop. And if they are charging 600 a car, what is their regular price if 600 is their 'discounted' group rate price?
I called Magnus to do Speed Density on my car, talked to someone and said they would return my call. Have yet to hear from them... I know SD is too small of a job for such a big shop known for doing redicilous engine builds and breaking records but damn.
Local shop, YES, but I didnt have any problems when I called E-Spec to say I was coming down and I chose my own day and he was ready for me when I got there no questions asked. And charged hell of a lot cheaper than 600 for a tune and dyno rental (before they got their in-house dyno), and that was me by my self, not a 'group rate'.

Originally Posted by TheNEWB
Pros to having your car tuned at magnus

Won't be rushed to have your car tuned in a 2 hour time rrame. Magnus takes all the time they need for your vehicle cause they don't have to catch a flight

Local. If there are any issue, there is a professional tuner within 20 min of your house. Not 3000 miles away.

Experience. Magnus has been tuning cars for 15 years, has tuned thousands of cars over the years. They also hold records he world over, if the worlds top mitsubishi teams trust this guy and he's in your back yard, why woulkd you call a guy from northern tenessee to come tune your car? Doesn't make any sense.

Retunes from magnus for small changes are 200 bucks and can be be done any day you wish, not having to wait for your tuner to fly back.

their **** won't blow up, they are known the world over for reliabilty AND power. Those 2 usually don't go together.

Plus you can build a repore witha local reputable and experience shop where you can go for service after mitsu black **** your *** like they did me.
Also, I'm sure E-Spec wont be coming for a couple hours and having to rush back. Unless you PM'ed him, I dont think he said anything about having to rush back. No doubt Magnus is such an extremly good tuner, I take my hat of to them for breaking records etc etc, but it seem you have jumped on the Magnus banwagon real fast. I forgot which EvoM member mentioned this, but I'd also like Magnus to post videos, mod lists of their tuned EVO's. Of course anyone who fully builds a motor and puts on an overprice turbo kit on their car will make loads of powe, but i want to see what tunes they have with minor mods and stock motor EVO's etc...
You can look all over EvoM's IX and X dyno tunes and see all the cars he has tuned with mods and VIDEO'S. I have yet to see MAGNUS Videos.
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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 09:26 AM
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Sst experience is all I want to know.
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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by TheNEWB
See that's the problem. Why new one. Buy used on the forum. Or better yet get a tactrix cable and u can have up to 8 maps loaded on your ecu ad switch via cruise control buttons. ;-)

Im abandoning Cobb going with opensource and tephra mod.

Newb
Agree 100%

Would also like to see some street-tuned Xs from Magnus
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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 10:59 AM
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The data base computer is next to the dyno...all customers cars + tunes are in their....
i too would be interested in seeing some dyno's/tunes etc. but from what I know, they've 'kinda' swore off the forums..since forums sometimes tend to sympathize more on a customers experience rather than 'the other side'

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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 02:09 PM
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Can we not get HBSpeed to come back up to Canada again like they did last time? You know they know the SST platform and many people have posted their tunes from HBSpeed so you know they have already been well received by the community. HBspeed tunes are posted all over the tuning thread for both GSR/MR.

The way i see tuning with magnus is this.

These are the thoughts that run through my head.

1. Not much consumer dyno graphs posted up on any forums, it makes me wonder why? If they did an excellent job, wouldn't you hear about them more? For instance, If you tune 100 cars, and all are positive results, I would expect about 10% of the customers to post up their happy results on a tune. Like if i got Wow'd after the tune. I'd be all over the forums, sharing my enjoyment and build with everyone. Now, if i was just Ok with the with the tune, I dont think i would be inclined to post it up seeing that may not have gotten what i expected. If it was a poor tune, like maybe what four stars did one of us, then I would let people know to stay away.

2. If they are proud of their work and have made great accomplishments, wouldn't you think they would try to promote that by communicating with the consumers via forums and posting their achievements. I haven't seen many things in relation to their work, except though their website and review articles on some of their products. That just isn't enough to sway me to think they are high level tuners dealing with tunes every day. (just my own opinion)

3. My belief is repetition makes for greater experience. If im gonna take a chance at a tuning place you don't know too much about. I would like to know how many they have done in the past. If X garage tunes 10 cars a month vs a Y garage tuning 100 a month. I would lean towards Y garage.

My summery:
What I'm trying to get at here is, I don't want a jack of all trades to tune my car. I want a specialist to tune it. Not to say magnus isn't good at what they do. Just dont expect me to think you can be good at everything you touch. We are human and generally we excel at what we do every day, not at what we do sometimes.

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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by LightZero
Can we not get HBSpeed to come back up to Canada again like they did last time? You know they know the SST platform and many people have posted their tunes from HBSpeed so you know they have already been well received by the community. HBspeed tunes are posted all over the tuning thread for both GSR/MR.

The way i see tuning with magnus is this.

These are the thoughts that run through my head.

1. Not much consumer dyno graphs posted up on any forums, it makes me wonder why? If they did an excellent job, wouldn't you hear about them more?

2. If they are proud of their work and have made great accomplishments, wouldn't you think they would try to promote that by communicating with the consumers via forums and posting their achievements. I haven't seen many things in relation to their work, except though their website and review articles on some of their products.

3. My belief is repetition makes for greater experience. If im gonna take a chance at a tuning place, I would like to know how many they ahve done in the past. If X garage tunes 10 cars a month vs a Y garage tuning 100 a month. I would lean towards Y garage.
exactly! its great to have a local tuner who is great at tuning evos but if i cant see hard proof of the numbers they can achieve, i will have my doubts. **** even neetronics or w.e they are called posted their dyno numbers up on the other forum. lets face it guys we have a turbo car, we all know that the tune is the most important part. like someone said this is a 40k+ car are you willing to take a gamble with out knowing the facts. I cant just listen to what some bandwagoners say about the shop thats building their motor. When im building my motor ill go to magnus but for a tune id still rather take a drive to e-spec
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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 04:11 PM
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LightZero, can you get a hold of Jon (socal.jon@cobbtuning.com)? I received no reply from him.. Also the tune is the most important part thus rushing it is also no good.
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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Not4Sale

Also, I'm sure E-Spec wont be coming for a couple hours and having to rush back. Unless you PM'ed him, I dont think he said anything about having to rush back. No doubt Magnus is such an extremly good tuner, I take my hat of to them for breaking records etc etc, but it seem you have jumped on the Magnus banwagon real fast. I forgot which EvoM member mentioned this, but I'd also like Magnus to post videos, mod lists of their tuned EVO's. Of course anyone who fully builds a motor and puts on an overprice turbo kit on their car will make loads of powe, but i want to see what tunes they have with minor mods and stock motor EVO's etc...
You can look all over EvoM's IX and X dyno tunes and see all the cars he has tuned with mods and VIDEO'S. I have yet to see MAGNUS Videos.
The way I see it........ real tunners and builders don't F...k around on the net advertising their dynos and results every 10 minutes to promo their sheet. I mean if you spend an hour a day tuning a car and the other half of the day posting the magic you had done.........well then............

Magnus tune for evoX group buy is $600. I already had a $550 HB Speed tune, meh. Gonna give Magnus a try this time.

Cause I know if I need a hand with something, I can drive down to see them and my car will be up and running.

You guys do whatever you like, I just made a suggestion.

NEWB
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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by evox44
LightZero, can you get a hold of Jon (socal.jon@cobbtuning.com)? I received no reply from him.. Also the tune is the most important part thus rushing it is also no good.
try contacting "rob@cobbtuning.com" hes more active. There are many options out there, we are just looking pros and cons of each one. We have plenty of time to decide on which one to go with and make arrangements for the spring. We should make a list and have the group vote on which one they would like best.

I'll start off with a few names that have come up. I'm not sure as to what other tuners will be willing to travel to Canada and tune so please chime in if you can add to the list.

E-Spec
Cobb
HBSpeed
Magnus

Originally Posted by TheNEWB
The way I see it........ real tunners and builders don't F...k around on the net advertising their dynos and results every 10 minutes to promo their sheet. I mean if you spend an hour a day tuning a car and the other half of the day posting the magic you had done.........well then............

Magnus tune for evoX group buy is $600. I already had a $550 HB Speed tune, meh. Gonna give Magnus a try this time.

Cause I know if I need a hand with something, I can drive down to see them and my car will be up and running.

You guys do whatever you like, I just made a suggestion.

NEWB
Thank you for your suggestion and your experience with magnus, everyone of us that have read this thread will put them into consideration This is a discussion to benefit the group as a whole and any input people put out there will be considered.

As for your comment stated above about magnus spending a hour a day posting their work magic. I dont think that is what i was implying. I was referring to the end user, being the consumer doing the leg work for you promoting what good work you do. The more positive user feedback we see on the forum for any business will speak for itself and the company will not have to try to prove anything to anyone, because at that point they have already proven themself.

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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 06:51 PM
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TheNEWB no offense to you but you are so biased. You're spending tons of money at Magnus so youre kissing *** like to no tomorrow. Wait for your car to finish before you can make a real judgement. Others can mention other tuners and base the quality of the work from the reviews from other members of the board. You seem against every tuner except Magnus. You are in fact slowing this down for the Evo and RA owners that want a tune in.

Show us dyno sheets of Magnus' tuning or else for all we know there are other proven options out there

Just speaking my mind
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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 08:08 PM
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Meh...just be appreciative of the fact that he is trying to help by suggesting someone else...more than that he even took the courtesy of calling them and asking for a deal even though he wouldn't be in the 'group tune' himself.
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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 08:26 PM
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Hey guys, We have a couple of Evo's coming down from Montreal for a tune on our Mustang AWD-500. Jamie, "Jack of Trades", from this forum is co-owner and our Evo/RA Tuning guru. Maybe you can all do the group thing and make a weekend out of it. We have several hotels withing 1 mile of the shop and more tittie bars,,,well prob not as many as Montreal but you know what i mean. 9-10 Hr drive at the speed limit
We could work out a great group rate if this is something someone wanted to arrange.

Just one of the almost stock Evo 10's we finished with amazing results. Before is dotted...



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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TheNEWB
See that's the problem. Why new one. Buy used on the forum. Or better yet get a tactrix cable and u can have up to 8 maps loaded on your ecu ad switch via cruise control buttons. ;-)

Im abandoning Cobb going with opensource and tephra mod.

Newb
Im staying with my ECUTek, Im just looking for a AP for my best bud
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by GO ON 3
Im staying with my ECUTek, Im just looking for a AP for my best bud
oooooooooooo that makes sense.

I gotta say I never heard of ECUTek until you posted about it. Wonder if it has all the options like multi map switching and cel KNOCK counter.

As for the rest of the guys, Marco will email me some maps to post. Since he is busy building 3 evos at the moment, it may take a bit of time.

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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 08:42 AM
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^thanks, also if you can ask'em for Evo X's..gsrs and Mr's...stock turbo/green/red/ and well ur black ....it would be nice to have the mod list of the cars as well...just to make it a fair comparison.
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