Boost Taper - Why?
Boost Taper - Why?
My setup is a Stage 1 +++. Like many others, I see my boost go to a high point of around 23psi, then drop to 18 psi by redline. This does not seem to be due to the physical limits of the turbo, as I have been made aware of another similarly equipped 16g car with AMS AEM and IC upgrade that can hold ~21psi to redline.
What is the exact cause of the taper, and what can be done to attenuate it?
What is the exact cause of the taper, and what can be done to attenuate it?
Originally Posted by Ted B
My setup is a Stage 1 +++. Like many others, I see my boost go to a high point of around 23psi, then drop to 18 psi by redline. This does not seem to be due to the physical limits of the turbo, as I have been made aware of another similarly equipped 16g car with AMS AEM and IC upgrade that can hold ~21psi to redline.
What is the exact cause of the taper, and what can be done to attenuate it?
What is the exact cause of the taper, and what can be done to attenuate it?
A comparison to AEM which is standalone is different than EXEDE which uses the stock ECU that is already very smart and intercepts and adjust the signals. From What I have learned the VISHNU tunning with EXEDE factors in MAF sensor like stock ECU does but AEM doesn't. The EXEDE offers great drivabilty since it still uses the quality
ECU.Also it is illegal to have standalone while piggy back is legal. In order to pass smog in SOCAL you need to hook up to the ECU. I passed my Smog test in SOCAL
Last edited by snoop; Oct 12, 2004 at 03:59 PM.
that told you everything
You have the same peak power as other cars that run 22 psi to redline.....basically
Your powerband is extra smooth thanks to this and there is no reason to push your trubo any higher at those rpm levels
Vishnu is taking care of your car basically, unlike many other shops and tuners
You have the same peak power as other cars that run 22 psi to redline.....basically
Your powerband is extra smooth thanks to this and there is no reason to push your trubo any higher at those rpm levels
Vishnu is taking care of your car basically, unlike many other shops and tuners
I'm not doubting anyone's ability to tune at all. Shiv did a great job with my car. I am however, asking what governs the boost taper. I am inclined to believe it is controlled by the ECU.
Now, as for telling me that the power difference between 18psi and 22psi is negligible at that rpm, I find that difficult to believe. This being said, why not hold the boost to redline?
Now, as for telling me that the power difference between 18psi and 22psi is negligible at that rpm, I find that difficult to believe. This being said, why not hold the boost to redline?
Originally Posted by Ted B
This isn't telling me anything, and I have the Xede-Flash, Xede, cams, gears, full exhaust, O2 housing, lower IC piping, 10.5t turbo, etc.
The boost can be adjusted in the Exede if you wanted to do it.
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If I can remove the taper via the Xede, I would be interested in doing so and dyno testing the difference between the present 18psi taper and holding the boost as best as possible to 21-22psi. Any idea of where to address this in the Xede programming?
I am interested in knowing the rationale from Vishnu in programming the taper as is.
I am interested in knowing the rationale from Vishnu in programming the taper as is.
Found this site:
http://www.stealth316.com/2-3s-compflowmaps.htm
It will take me a bit to get through it. Care to expedite things a bit with a brief preface to where I should pay special attention?
http://www.stealth316.com/2-3s-compflowmaps.htm
It will take me a bit to get through it. Care to expedite things a bit with a brief preface to where I should pay special attention?
Originally Posted by Ted B
I'm not doubting anyone's ability to tune at all. Shiv did a great job with my car. I am however, asking what governs the boost taper. I am inclined to believe it is controlled by the ECU.
Now, as for telling me that the power difference between 18psi and 22psi is negligible at that rpm, I find that difficult to believe. This being said, why not hold the boost to redline?
Now, as for telling me that the power difference between 18psi and 22psi is negligible at that rpm, I find that difficult to believe. This being said, why not hold the boost to redline?
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