Best Motoring American Touge
While I can appreciate what robi's car ran the day before, I find it somewhat irrelevant. I am sure our car could have shaved seconds off with our driver at the helm, but that is neither here nor there. It would be on par with adding up all of your fastest times on different portions of the track, on different laps, and then calling that your fastest time. Really, how much ground does that hold in the real world? Further more, no one is ever willing to except dyno results from different days or better yet, different dynos. So what is the sense in comparing times from different days with different drivers? And even if everyone were willing to except all of those variations, who is to say that what robi said is valid? The discussion is a moot point.
*EDIT* Your post addresses much of this.
Originally Posted by DavidV
I had a conversation with Robi after the event in which he told me about the 58 second time - which would have trumped the 1:01 Skyline - allowing an overall Evo victory even with all the back and forth over tire compounds/construction.
-- DavidV
-- DavidV

it was rough.. lots of contraversy. i cant wait for the dvd release.. they better at least mention us for the special award like they said they would.
Last edited by Vishnu_Evo8; Jan 8, 2006 at 01:19 PM.
i think you guys are missing the point of the BMI touge battles... have you ever watched any of them? the wins aren't based on laptimes. the scoring isn't done on that either. and it's not really a competition until the final nose to tail race. the cars are judged on driving feel, rather than all out speed. they are judged by the drivers on their impressions, and which cars they like driving best. the best two run each other, then there's a winner. i've seen a few cars in the BMI touge battles clock the fastest sector time and not even get the special award. this wasn't a road race. it's essentially a street race, on the track. the only run that matters is the nose to tail at the end of the day. that determines the touge champ. not the qualifying and prejudging. i can't wait till the DVD comes out
Originally Posted by DavidV
thanks for post the score sheet. From what I see, The common I got is" Very good balance car. but need more power "
. and they use Red pen to circle my car. I got this mean our car win the class
.well aleast it mean all the time we spend on the chassic setup is all worth.
I guess next plan is POWER Power and more Power, Dont worry david we will stay our origional goal. keep it NA
!!!oh BTW the time on the score sheet, dont really count. because even thought our car got 1.07 when Drift king drove it at moring. but in Afternoon's special time attack drive by Mr.KAZAMA he got 1.05.xx . that mean in the moring Drift king is not taking full pace on the driving, he just try to feel the car and pick the car he like the most.
LAST who ever want to know his common on his car, PM him. I will translate it and pm him back
Cant wait on DVD!!!!!. Wana see the theme very very bad
Originally Posted by DavidV
Cool. Thanks for clarifying. Do you happen to know what Navid ran? How about Robi?
This whole scoring system seemed more than a little shady to me.
This whole scoring system seemed more than a little shady to me.
--Navid
Originally Posted by Navid
I don't even know what times they got in my car. It couldn't have been that good. I guess the drift king was not used to a car without ABS. I saw him locking up the brakes every time coming down the hill. I didn't realize it then, but when I had the car on the lift, I spotted a huge flat spot on the right front.
--Navid
--Navid
Originally Posted by chronohunter
Navid I would check the braking sytem out from top to bottom for any issue. The reason I say that is because the Drift King is very very used to non-ABS cars so it may indicate an issue with bias etc. What is your pad combo (for instance)? IF they are a different brand/compound F/R that you could give you a bias issue when ultra hot. I may be way off but I thought I'd bring it up just in case 

--Navid
there was a small patch in the front straight that they would trail into heavily, this patch had a bit of gravel on it and i would see the drivers locking up the brakes even on cars with abs.
Originally Posted by Navid
I run Ferodo DS2500 pads on stock brakes front and back. This is the same setup I ran at the Nationals and on Jan 1st at Laguna in heavy rain. I would have to reject that theory. Picture attached.
--Navid
--Navid
Originally Posted by chronohunter
Navid I would check the braking sytem out from top to bottom for any issue. The reason I say that is because the Drift King is very very used to non-ABS cars so it may indicate an issue with bias etc. What is your pad combo (for instance)? IF they are a different brand/compound F/R that you could give you a bias issue when ultra hot. I may be way off but I thought I'd bring it up just in case 



