Best Motoring American Touge
Originally Posted by Evo_Kid
I think Vishnu_Evo8's sig better addresses the same question??
Originally Posted by Vishnu_Evo8
"Number 1 Evo/WRX in American Togue Battle" -Best Motoring's Keiichi Tsuchiya, 2nd fastest time (damn 700+ hp skylines)

Definition - togue (tōg)
n.
See lake trout.
It would have been interesting if Best Motoring had let both the Skyline and the Vishnu Evo finish in a first place tie. That way the Skyline could have flogged the other cars and an Evo could have finished second.
I guess the moral of the story is -- bring a backup set of slicks just incase a 700 hp skyline sneaks in at the last minute
I guess the moral of the story is -- bring a backup set of slicks just incase a 700 hp skyline sneaks in at the last minute
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Originally Posted by JTB
I guess the moral of the story is -- bring a backup set of slicks just incase a 700 hp skyline sneaks in at the last minute 


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great job to everyone, it was a long day but worth every minute. the end was a bit iffy as shiv mentioned but thats just the name of the game, the bmi videos arent quite what you are lead to believe. major thanks to the FF boys for coming thru and dustin for busting his *** and everyone else that was there with us. this year was a whole lot better than last year..lol!
great job vivid for making it to the finals.
till next time....
great job vivid for making it to the finals.
till next time....
more side notes.. we also had teh 2nd smallest tires size.. 255.. compared to mots cars that were riding on 275s, and some even evos on 295s. We also had full interior (we drove up with 5 people in the car) compared to most of the other cars that entirely stripped with one or two racing seats and nothing else.
Thanks to all the vishnu team for helping me build a pretty fast car that happens to look bone stock. Shiv has always been very generous to me and i am happy to promote his company and his brand of tuning. And as always everyone helped out greatly.. Dustin and Kal helped me, rather did everything and set up the suspension. Ruch, White man and everyone else. Not to mention Sean and Jerry from FF.
I have to say that the Paul G spec ohlins cant be described by mere words. "Its like riding on a cloud" That may sum it up. Even some of teh best drivers from Japan thought it was simply amazing. I guess Paul knows a thing or two about tuning suspension after all. Maybe all that Gran Turismo 4 told him how to set up a car... J/K
Props to vivid for making teh RWD turbo class finals... the drivers seemed to really love the way that car drove.
Hopefully we can enter the car in some time attacks and see what it is really capable of.. all while keeping it looking bone stock of course.
Thanks to all the vishnu team for helping me build a pretty fast car that happens to look bone stock. Shiv has always been very generous to me and i am happy to promote his company and his brand of tuning. And as always everyone helped out greatly.. Dustin and Kal helped me, rather did everything and set up the suspension. Ruch, White man and everyone else. Not to mention Sean and Jerry from FF.
I have to say that the Paul G spec ohlins cant be described by mere words. "Its like riding on a cloud" That may sum it up. Even some of teh best drivers from Japan thought it was simply amazing. I guess Paul knows a thing or two about tuning suspension after all. Maybe all that Gran Turismo 4 told him how to set up a car... J/K
Props to vivid for making teh RWD turbo class finals... the drivers seemed to really love the way that car drove.
Hopefully we can enter the car in some time attacks and see what it is really capable of.. all while keeping it looking bone stock of course.
Last edited by Vishnu_Evo8; Dec 21, 2005 at 12:58 PM.
Originally Posted by Evo_Kid
NEVERMIND, didn't notice Vishnu Evo8's new sig. Asked if his car represented Vishnu, which it obvious did.
VISHNU and Vishnu_evo8's car are the ****....
I've said it before and will say it again, forget the 1320, take a Vishnu car to a road course and you'll know who builds the best, fastest EVOs.
VISHNU and Vishnu_evo8's car are the ****....
I've said it before and will say it again, forget the 1320, take a Vishnu car to a road course and you'll know who builds the best, fastest EVOs.
Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu
Dustin is the man. A 130lb man. But the man, nonetheless 

Originally Posted by Vishnu_Evo8
i dont know about all that but he said it would be at or near the top out of all the non race evos in japan.
I would like to say that the event was not organized well. I think that they have overinvited people and with 40+ cars that were there it was impossible to do it right and fair.
Our car performed well. Being our first Togue event and TimeAttack nature of our car, we are not upset about not being selected. Congrats to those who advanced and won.
Out of all the EVO's. (8 or 9 I think), only half did not break (BOZZ, A-Spec, APR, XP and white "Robbi Spec" EVO) and actually got back to the pits using their own powers and not gravity (lol, gotta love the hills) and/or were given a "second chance". After all, this is a Togue event, so if you break, you loose. That is my take on it. After all, more than "fixing the problem" can be done during that time. Tire pressures, shock absorber settings, sway bar settings and more can be done while those who did not break did not have a chance to do. That is not to say that those who were given that chance actually did that. But in all fairness, it should be the same for everyone. You snooze you loose. Or at least, use the points system fairly and penalize "broken" cars.
Also, the whole AWD class was rushed through. Due to limited time, they had one driver drive one car. With the first 3 classes they had each driver drive one class. With AWD cars, they both drive half of the AWD cars. So the driving impression point system did not work at all with the AWD class.
So in the end, 4 cars were picked based on the "crippled" system they used. NSX in Turbo RWD, M3 in NA RWD, Top Setup EG Civic in FWD and XS R34 in AWD class. Based on the feedback from people they "banned" slick tires and R34 was disqualified. Vishnu EVO, that came in second in AWD class got the 4th spot. Then, for some reason, they swapped the M3 with Vivid's turbo RX8. And later on, "unbanned" slicks and kicked Visnhu out of the finals.
How did a turbo RWD RX8 got picked instead of M3 I am not sure. IIRC, M3 had "banned" tires so, why did not they pick second best NA RWD? Go figure.
Also, prior to the event, BOZZ was specifically asked to "do something about or graphics". As you may know, our EVO is a CUSCO sponsored car. So it looks like any other CUSCO EVO/WRX in Japan. They said it was too JDM and they wanted the American Togue to be more, ahem, American. So off went the "JDM" graphics in went the "JDM" Skyline.
I mean, you cannot be more JDM than a R34.
That car was not even entered. Another XS AWD car was entered but swapped for R34 last minute due to mechanical problems prior coming to the event. Once again, you break, you loose.
So, all in all, it was an ok event. We were happy to see all the cars, friends and competitors. I think that this type of the event is in its infant stages and the organizers play it as they go. I feel that the rules should be clearly stated BEFORE the event and followed through.
I think thirt installement of this event will be better. I bet they will narrow down the competition to no more than 20 total cars. We'll see. BOZZ for sure will be there next time.
Vishnu EVO looked mighty smooth on the track on its second attempt. So did the underpowered NA Subaru of Gravel Crew. Top Setup EG looked like it was on rails and so did the red MR2 with a ginormous wing.
In the mean time, thank you all for coming and grats to the chosen ones.
- Alex@BOZZ
Our car performed well. Being our first Togue event and TimeAttack nature of our car, we are not upset about not being selected. Congrats to those who advanced and won.
Out of all the EVO's. (8 or 9 I think), only half did not break (BOZZ, A-Spec, APR, XP and white "Robbi Spec" EVO) and actually got back to the pits using their own powers and not gravity (lol, gotta love the hills) and/or were given a "second chance". After all, this is a Togue event, so if you break, you loose. That is my take on it. After all, more than "fixing the problem" can be done during that time. Tire pressures, shock absorber settings, sway bar settings and more can be done while those who did not break did not have a chance to do. That is not to say that those who were given that chance actually did that. But in all fairness, it should be the same for everyone. You snooze you loose. Or at least, use the points system fairly and penalize "broken" cars.
Also, the whole AWD class was rushed through. Due to limited time, they had one driver drive one car. With the first 3 classes they had each driver drive one class. With AWD cars, they both drive half of the AWD cars. So the driving impression point system did not work at all with the AWD class.
So in the end, 4 cars were picked based on the "crippled" system they used. NSX in Turbo RWD, M3 in NA RWD, Top Setup EG Civic in FWD and XS R34 in AWD class. Based on the feedback from people they "banned" slick tires and R34 was disqualified. Vishnu EVO, that came in second in AWD class got the 4th spot. Then, for some reason, they swapped the M3 with Vivid's turbo RX8. And later on, "unbanned" slicks and kicked Visnhu out of the finals.
How did a turbo RWD RX8 got picked instead of M3 I am not sure. IIRC, M3 had "banned" tires so, why did not they pick second best NA RWD? Go figure.
Also, prior to the event, BOZZ was specifically asked to "do something about or graphics". As you may know, our EVO is a CUSCO sponsored car. So it looks like any other CUSCO EVO/WRX in Japan. They said it was too JDM and they wanted the American Togue to be more, ahem, American. So off went the "JDM" graphics in went the "JDM" Skyline.
I mean, you cannot be more JDM than a R34.
That car was not even entered. Another XS AWD car was entered but swapped for R34 last minute due to mechanical problems prior coming to the event. Once again, you break, you loose.So, all in all, it was an ok event. We were happy to see all the cars, friends and competitors. I think that this type of the event is in its infant stages and the organizers play it as they go. I feel that the rules should be clearly stated BEFORE the event and followed through.
I think thirt installement of this event will be better. I bet they will narrow down the competition to no more than 20 total cars. We'll see. BOZZ for sure will be there next time.
Vishnu EVO looked mighty smooth on the track on its second attempt. So did the underpowered NA Subaru of Gravel Crew. Top Setup EG looked like it was on rails and so did the red MR2 with a ginormous wing.
In the mean time, thank you all for coming and grats to the chosen ones.
- Alex@BOZZ
Last edited by cuscoevo; Dec 21, 2005 at 01:14 PM.


