Thanks. I was looking at the signature and also noted that there were no injectors added. The mods are very similar to my car. Maybe Shiv can Chime in about injectors. It would be nice $$ not to have to pay for injectors and ECU rescaling on top of a turbo and the man's tuning and Dyno time.......

Sigfrid

 

What is the difference between an IX TME and a White Rabbit?

 

WR is an Evo 8 turbo with TME turbine and a proprietary, 5 bladed comp wheel.

IX TME is TME turbine and a new compressor cover. Not sure if the comp wheel is different than the 8 turbos.

 

tme9 is a 9 turbo with a titanium internals of a tme turbo. it's all mitsu parts.

the white rabbit is a tme hot side assembly with a fp 5 blade compressor wheel inside of a 8 compressor housing.

 

Neo: Can I trouble you for your 1st hand driving impressions, the subjective stuff, seat of the pants and all that. In other words how do you like the new turbo? How do you compare the TME-9's spool up to the '03 turbo you had before, and etc?

 

Its an internally gated 16G still. It definitely doesn't need an injector upgrade.

 

I am glad to see / hear that the mystery turbo has been revealed.....TME-9His earlier/original posts did not state what type of turbo was used in his sig.

The original post was holding back on the turbo info too:
Sorry for not tevo'ing this soap opera, but I was waiting to hear what turbo was used, not to hear about the race gas results, as my evo is my daily driver, which i run on 91 octane.

Nice results on 91 octane & the TME-9

 

Well you COULD have just read the FIRST post ...

I too use my car as a daily and could give a **** about race gas, but they said they weren't going to release the info until after they had tested it, likely as a way to test the upper limits of the turbo to make sure it doesn't run out of breath.

 

When you say TME9 does this mean and EVO9 Ti compressor wheel or an EVO8 Ti compressor wheel?

I think everyone was waiting on the TYPE OF TURBO not silly **** race gas results.

Now we just need to know if you stuck TME8 internals into a 9 cover or if you reegineered the EVO9 internals with lighter stronger metal.

How is this turbo different than the JDM IX RS turbo? FWIW, Speed Element claims to charge a price of $1099 for a IX 16G w/TiAl internals.

A good EVO8 vs EVO9 turbo thread: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=184384

 

I was aware of that, he obviously changed his sig. Now we need some more information on this turbo from Shiv or the owner of the car. Just have to wait and see.

 

I think USDM IX turbos use an Inconel compressor wheel. JDM IX turbos have an aluminum alloy compressor wheel, except for the RS and GT models which used a magnesiun alloy compressor wheel. Due to failure of some Magnesium alloy turbos on the GT models, Mitsubishi switched all JDM IX turbos over to the Aluminum alloy comp wheels until the failures coild be corrected.

I think the USDM IX and VIII turbos share the same Inconel compressor wheel. The only significant difference is the IX´s larger compressor housing. The TME-9 uses the USDM IX turbo´s compressor side with the TME titanium-aluminide turbine wheel and a 10.5 hotside.

 

Ok I get that the Mg wheels are failing, I've read that a few different times. Where I was going with that was we already know that a lighter wheel will spool faster so that's no secret.

From what I've read on here, the EVO9 is not the same as the EVO8 wheel. It didn't increase in diameter but it has increased in "depth" as in the blades stick out further into the inlet. Whether this info is correct or not I do not know.

So my question is this: Are they using an EVO8 TME wheel or did they make a new EVO9 TME wheel with increased depth?

 

Jeff, you are off base with a lot of terminology you are using whem comparing these turbos.

The turbine wheel is in the exhaust side.
The compressor wheel is in the intake side.

- US VIII and IX turbine wheels are the same, and both inconel.
- JDM TME turbos have a Titanium alloy turbine wheel/shaft which is lighter than the standard VIII turbine wheel and the standard IX turbine wheel. (by about 33%)
- No IX turbo, JDM or US that I am aware of, come with a Ti alloy turbine wheel.

- All US and JDM VIII (including TME) turbos use the same compressor wheel, it is made of aluminum.
- US IX turbos also have aluminum compressor wheels, whether they are the same as VIII compressor wheels I do not know.
- JDM IX turbos come with a magnesium compressor wheel which is lighter than aluminum (I'm not sure how much)

A TME IX turbo could be either a US IX compressor wheel combined with a JDM TME turbine wheel and shaft inside standard IX US/JDM housings.

OR

A TME IX turbo could be a JDM IX magnesium compressor wheel combined with a JDM TME turbine wheel and shaft inside standard IX US/JDM housings.

Both would/should spool faster than a standard US IX turbo, the later being the best, and both would have the same max flowrate as the US IX turbo.

The reliability of the mag compressor wheels is still in question, so whether Vishnu decided to use it is unknown.

If you call forced performance, the can build you any of the turbos mentioned above, they'll even give you a mag compressor wheel if you ask nicely.



- Steve

 

Thanks for setting me straight. There's alot of bunk info out on these forums so I'm glad you compiled all the crap into something legit.

So the question is about the compressor wheels.....are the 8 & 9 wheels identical?

 

To that question, I do not have the answer... I'm sure one call to Robert at FP could answer that easily though.